Which multiplicator will be applied? (Newbie)
#1
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Which multiplicator will be applied? (Newbie)
Hey,
I am not yet member of a frequent flyer program, but I recently flow Business Class from Italy to Australia return and would like to get the most reward and tier miles out of that. I think of either joining Air Berlin topbonus, Etihad Guest or Alitalia MilleMiglia.
I flew Alitalia from Italy to Abu Dhabi and then Etihad to Australia (for both I had an AZ flight number) and back with Etihad over Abu Dhabi to Italy (both EY flight number). Booking class was the normal, undiscounted Business Class.
Now I found out that generally Air Berlin rewards 200%, Alitalia 300% and Etihad only 175% of the miles for the normal Business Class (I assume that counts for both reward AND Tier miles, right?)
My question is, will all these programs award the same amount of miles, because for example topbonus will use the Alitalia 300% multiplier for Alitalia flights and the 175% multiplier for Etihad flights?
Or will I get with topbonus 200% of all these miles and with Alitalia 300% and with Etihad 175%?
Thank you very much for your answers!
If I didn't manage to be clear, please ask.
Thank you!!!
I am not yet member of a frequent flyer program, but I recently flow Business Class from Italy to Australia return and would like to get the most reward and tier miles out of that. I think of either joining Air Berlin topbonus, Etihad Guest or Alitalia MilleMiglia.
I flew Alitalia from Italy to Abu Dhabi and then Etihad to Australia (for both I had an AZ flight number) and back with Etihad over Abu Dhabi to Italy (both EY flight number). Booking class was the normal, undiscounted Business Class.
Now I found out that generally Air Berlin rewards 200%, Alitalia 300% and Etihad only 175% of the miles for the normal Business Class (I assume that counts for both reward AND Tier miles, right?)
My question is, will all these programs award the same amount of miles, because for example topbonus will use the Alitalia 300% multiplier for Alitalia flights and the 175% multiplier for Etihad flights?
Or will I get with topbonus 200% of all these miles and with Alitalia 300% and with Etihad 175%?
Thank you very much for your answers!
If I didn't manage to be clear, please ask.
Thank you!!!
Last edited by Claudi; Jan 2, 2017 at 11:27 pm Reason: Clarifying
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The AB website is down to US traffic tonight so I can't verify this but you're going to want to see if your AZ flight numbered EY operated flight can be credited to TopBonus.
I don't see any issue with crediting either flight to AZ's or EY's program and you will earn by the program's prescribed rate.
I don't see any issue with crediting either flight to AZ's or EY's program and you will earn by the program's prescribed rate.
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The AB website is down to US traffic tonight so I can't verify this but you're going to want to see if your AZ flight numbered EY operated flight can be credited to TopBonus.
I don't see any issue with crediting either flight to AZ's or EY's program and you will earn by the program's prescribed rate.
I don't see any issue with crediting either flight to AZ's or EY's program and you will earn by the program's prescribed rate.
Thank you for your fast answer.
Does this mean I will get also 300% of the EY flight miles, when crediting it to the AZ program?
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I believe it goes by operating category for the AZ-EY codeshare. So you'd earn the EY rate of 130% or 175% based on the segment's fare code.
Remember that not all miles are equal. I'm not that familiar with AZ's program but one may earn more miles in a program but redemptions may require more miles.
Depends where your future flight plans are and your goal overall.
Remember that not all miles are equal. I'm not that familiar with AZ's program but one may earn more miles in a program but redemptions may require more miles.
Depends where your future flight plans are and your goal overall.
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Claudi Welcome to FT
Many to most ffp's require you to be a signed up member at the date if the flight. There are a few exceptions, which may or may not apply your flights. Codeshare flight numbers can complicate this a lot for both redeemable miles & status earning.
Status tier earning usually does not have a multiplier. Usually completely different system, that often has with little relationship to total distance flow or class.
As above ffp miles are not equal to earn or burn. 10,000 ff miles may get you a longer award flight that 12,000 ff miles in another ffp. And status earning is not always the same
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/infor...help-here.html
www.wheretocredit.com for redeemable ff miles
I am not yet member of a frequent flyer program, but I recently flow Business Class from Italy to Australia return and would like to get the most reward and tier miles out of that. I think of either joining Air Berlin Topbonus, Etihad Guest or Alitalia MilleMiglia.
I flew Alitalia from Italy to Abu Dhabi and then Etihad to Australia (for both I had an AZ flight number) and back with Etihad over Abu Dhabi to Italy (both EY flight number). Booking class was the normal, undiscounted Business Class
I flew Alitalia from Italy to Abu Dhabi and then Etihad to Australia (for both I had an AZ flight number) and back with Etihad over Abu Dhabi to Italy (both EY flight number). Booking class was the normal, undiscounted Business Class
Status tier earning usually does not have a multiplier. Usually completely different system, that often has with little relationship to total distance flow or class.
As above ffp miles are not equal to earn or burn. 10,000 ff miles may get you a longer award flight that 12,000 ff miles in another ffp. And status earning is not always the same
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/infor...help-here.html
www.wheretocredit.com for redeemable ff miles
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Claudi Welcome to FT
Many to most ffp's require you to be a signed up member at the date if the flight. There are a few exceptions, which may or may not apply your flights. Codeshare flight numbers can complicate this a lot for both redeemable miles & status earning.
Status tier earning usually does not have a multiplier. Usually completely different system, that often has with little relationship to total distance flow or class.
As above ffp miles are not equal to earn or burn. 10,000 ff miles may get you a longer award flight that 12,000 ff miles in another ffp. And status earning is not always the same
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/infor...help-here.html
www.wheretocredit.com for redeemable ff miles
Many to most ffp's require you to be a signed up member at the date if the flight. There are a few exceptions, which may or may not apply your flights. Codeshare flight numbers can complicate this a lot for both redeemable miles & status earning.
Status tier earning usually does not have a multiplier. Usually completely different system, that often has with little relationship to total distance flow or class.
As above ffp miles are not equal to earn or burn. 10,000 ff miles may get you a longer award flight that 12,000 ff miles in another ffp. And status earning is not always the same
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/infor...help-here.html
www.wheretocredit.com for redeemable ff miles
Thanks for your help!
I checked with AB and EY FFPs now. Both of them allow to be credited for flights up to 3 month prior to FFP sign up.
For AZ I could not find out. T&C don't mention this case. Do you know more here?
Is there a calculator for how many award and tier miles one gets at the different FFPs for a specific flight? Only found one for redeeming award miles.
BTW: What is an Oz Fest?
Last edited by Claudi; Jan 4, 2017 at 5:33 am Reason: .
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wheretocredit.com is good for general information BUT that gets tricky with codeshares and the individual rules of each program of what qualifies.
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Each programme has its own rules regarding earning, and the amount of miles earned in each programme varies.
Topbonus only awards miles on the basis of the rules of the topbonus programme as published on its website. It does not matter whether, for example, Alitalia would offer more, or Etihad would earn less.
Ditto for Alitalia Millemiglia -miles earned in that programme are governed solely by the published rules of Millemiglia - and ditto for Etihad Guest - miles earned in Etihad Guest are determined solely on the published rules for earning within Etihad Guest.
(If the miles earned would always be the same, then there would be no point having three different programmes, with three different names - as to always earn the same would imply that the programmes are the same).
If you go with Airberlin topbonus, you need to check the topbonus earning rules and check the tables for each airline involved (topbonus may give different miles depending on whether you are flying on Alitalia, on Etihad, and on airberlin).
If you go with Alitalia Millemiglia, you need to check the Millemiglia earning rules and check the tables for each airline involved.
If you go with Etihad Guest, you need to check the Etihad Guest earning rules and check the tables for each airline involved.
And while you could, in theory, claim each individual sector in any one of the three different programmes on the basis of which programme gave you the "most" miles for each sector, this would not be recommended. You should strive to consolidate all miles in a single account, in which you can more quickly build up a usable balance, because if you only gradually top up several different programmes in this manner, you will have to wait far, far longer to do anything with the miles - and you should never leave airmiles in your account for too long, because their value declines each time the programmes rules are changed.

