Swapping Amex MR for Chase UR
#2




Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 278
Theis is kinda neat, but the programs are not interchangeable.
http://www.webflyer.com/programs/mil...rter/index.php
http://www.webflyer.com/programs/mil...rter/index.php
#3


Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Nashville, TN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, noted Travel Free Agent
Posts: 474
Wouldn't it just be easier to book the flight through AmEx travel with MR points? Certainly avoids any snoops from voiding your points if they catch you.
#4
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 28
What's the airline? With all of the alliances, it's possible there is another AMEX transfer partner option which would allow you to book the ticket through a partner.
#5
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#7
Original Poster


Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 324
Thanks. I have tried all the alternatives. What is really frustrating is the fact that each partner airline charges a different amount for the same seat. For example, Korea Air has avails at 125K R/T in biz class. Delta, even if they had a seat available would want nearly 2x that number. When I look on Flying Blue, they want 200K for a flight on CZ. CZ, on their own, wants 120K for the same flight.
#8
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: Delta SkyMiles
Posts: 102
Thanks. I have tried all the alternatives. What is really frustrating is the fact that each partner airline charges a different amount for the same seat. For example, Korea Air has avails at 125K R/T in biz class. Delta, even if they had a seat available would want nearly 2x that number. When I look on Flying Blue, they want 200K for a flight on CZ. CZ, on their own, wants 120K for the same flight.
Anyway, perhaps if you can be more specific about what your ultimate goal is, one of us might be able to propose a workaround.
#9




Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: DCA
Posts: 831
Alitalia has a very competitive award chart - they are also in SkyTeam and would have access to the same SkyTeam partner award seats as Delta or Korean. They are an AmEx MR transfer partner. Award chart here: https://www.alitalia.com/content/dam...m-2016-ENG.pdf
Find the flight availability on Air France or Delta site, then call Alitalia to book (can't book partner awards online). Get the phone agent to confirm availability before transferring points though.
Find the flight availability on Air France or Delta site, then call Alitalia to book (can't book partner awards online). Get the phone agent to confirm availability before transferring points though.
#10
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 324
One issue I have run into is that while Delta or AirFrance may have seats, Alitalia may not. Is that your experience as well? In other words, seats are allotted to each carrier vs. just to "Skyteam" as a whole? If so, I will need to confirm that Alitalia specifically has the seats, correct?
#11




Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: DCA
Posts: 831
Theoretically they should all have access to the same Skyteam partner seats. But yes, definitely confirm that Alitalia has access to the seats before transferring MR points. But if you see availability on Delta or AF and the phone agent says they don't have it, hang up and call again. Alitalia phone agents aren't always the best...
#13
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Theis is kinda neat, but the programs are not interchangeable.
http://www.webflyer.com/programs/mil...rter/index.php
http://www.webflyer.com/programs/mil...rter/index.php
#14


Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: BOI
Posts: 226
The best way to get your dilemma addressed here is to provide some details. Where are you going? From where? When? Which airline are you wanting to travel on? Which cabin class?
Having said all that, one thing that you need to keep in mind when booking award travel is that you need to be flexible and work within the often maddening, inconsistent rules. It's not Burger King.
Having said all that, one thing that you need to keep in mind when booking award travel is that you need to be flexible and work within the often maddening, inconsistent rules. It's not Burger King.
#15
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 324
I understand all the nuanced detail - and I appreciate what you are saying. I am not going to burden a message board with the level of detail you suggest. I know what I want to do can be done - is available, etc. Unfortunately, I have Amex and not Chase - so i want to know if there is an easy way to swap - but it does not appear so.

