Will this cause concern for the airline or customs?
May 14, 2014 | 9:30 am
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Will this cause concern for the airline or customs?
Just booked the super cheap YVR to HKG. Want to add SEA to YVR, then continue as ticketed YVR to SEA to HKG. So we would fly SEA-YVR-SEA-HKG. Connection time at YVR is about 2-1/2 hrs. Any foreseeable difficulties?
May 14, 2014 | 12:33 pm
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Separate itineraries are always a risk: if your SEA-YVR flight is very late or canceled. Then you are in trouble for YVR-XXX etc. The second carrier will likely regard you as a no-show and likely cancel your ticket. If this super-cheap TPAC is that important to you, can you buy an earlier SEA-YVR ticket to add some cushion to the time between flights to be safer? No customs issues. Curious as to why you would think there would be one?
Last edited by UAPremExecflyer; May 14, 2014 at 12:35 pm Reason: added customs
May 14, 2014 | 1:12 pm
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Thanks for the reply. The SEA-YVR flight we want to book would be on AS and the connecting YVR-SEA is also on AS, so I guess no problem? I guess we can link these flights with AS. I was questioning customs because 1) do we have to go through customs? 2) will they have a problem with us going SEA-YVR-SEA then to HKG?
And I guess arriving on AS from SEA at 9:54 am and departing on AS to SEA at 10:40 am is not an option. So I will have to get the early (7:25 am) SEA-YVR flight
And I guess arriving on AS from SEA at 9:54 am and departing on AS to SEA at 10:40 am is not an option. So I will have to get the early (7:25 am) SEA-YVR flight
Last edited by elabut; May 14, 2014 at 1:21 pm Reason: added info
May 14, 2014 | 3:46 pm
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I'm not sure you are following the last poster's warning.
Even if it is the same airline, with two separate tickets, the airline is under NO obligation to put you on a different flight if the first one is delayed. So while there seems to be enough time if the flights are on time, if they aren't, you are not entitled to help on the 2nd flight. No airline will link flights in the way you are supposing..
Hope this is helpful.
Hope this is helpful.
May 14, 2014 | 5:54 pm
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Even if it is the same airline, with two separate tickets, the airline is under NO obligation to put you on a different flight if the first one is delayed. So while there seems to be enough time if the flights are on time, if they aren't, you are not entitled to help on the 2nd flight. No airline will link flights in the way you are supposing..
Hope this is helpful.
Hope this is helpful.
May 14, 2014 | 8:49 pm
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The worst experience I ever had at any immigration anywhere was the CBSA (Canadian) at YVR. I was flying JFK-YVR on CX then YVR-SEA-ANC on AS. They kept me over an hour. I might take the train up if I were you just to avoid them.
May 14, 2014 | 9:42 pm
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Thanks. Might fly in with Avios the night before. Will definitely consider alternatives
May 14, 2014 | 9:58 pm
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Horrible treatment by Canadian Customs/Immigration (CBSA) at YVR
May 15, 2014 | 9:52 am
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I am not sure what to do
I don't see flight options with Avios to arrive YVR the night (or afternoon) prior. We might just go with the 2h 26m turn around. Does the 90 min I/I minimum apply for SEA-YVR-SEA or is it longer since we have to pre-clear into USA? This will be Fri, July 3 arriving at 8:24 am if that makes a difference.
May 16, 2014 | 2:01 am
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Even if it is the same airline, with two separate tickets, the airline is under NO obligation to put you on a different flight if the first one is delayed. So while there seems to be enough time if the flights are on time, if they aren't, you are not entitled to help on the 2nd flight. No airline will link flights in the way you are supposing..
Hope this is helpful.
Hope this is helpful.
I've also been told--but I haven't fortunately had to test this--by DL DM line agents that DL would help in such a situation. The same might not be true for nonelites.
May 16, 2014 | 7:10 am
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When you say "have a policy" do you mean a written policy or a habit of doing so? If it's the latter, I wouldn't trust it any father than I can sling a piano.
May 16, 2014 | 8:31 am
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May 16, 2014 | 2:19 pm
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I have made up my mind. We will arrive YVR the night before our flight. Maybe go up by train, maybe by Bolt bus, maybe by Greyound bus, maybe on AS with Avios. This should work out with no worries. So not having to catch a 7:25 am flight (SEA-YVR) with connection to SEA, then HKG, should be much more pleasant. Thanks for all the input!
May 17, 2014 | 10:53 am
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I think that's a really smart choice, it eliminates a lot of possibilities that could go wrong.