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Feb 3, 2014, 4:14 am by RandomNobodyRules for allowing seat assignments in each class of service by airline:
AIR FRANCE- Economy:Seat Plus - available on all long-haul flights and some medium-haul flights. 50 per seat per flight for flights less than 9 hours and 90 per seat per flight for flights over 9 hours. For medium haul flights cost is 10-20. This service is free of charge for AF/KL Flying Blue Gold and Platinum members if they provide their Flying Blue card number when purchasing their ticket.
- Premium Economy (Premium Voyageur): These are fixed shell seats in their own cabin between Affairs and Economy. They have 20% more leg room and are 20% wider than regular economy seats.
- Business/Affaires: available to all business class customers
- First: available to all first class customers
- Families are generally assigned seats a few days before travel and IIRC can do OLCI a bit before general passengers.
ALASKA AIRLINES- Economy: available online to all passengers
- Economy (reserved forward section): available online to elites/partner elites and full-fare reservations. Opens to all passengers at on-line check-in window.
- First: available online to all first class passengers
AMERICAN AIRLINES- Economy/Main Cabin: Nonstatus passengers can select any available non premium seat for free; often these are middle seats or seats in the rear of the aircraft.
- Main Cabin Extra (MCE): This is AA's Y+ product with more legroom. AA Executive Platinums, Platinums, equivalent OW and US Airways customers, adn those on full economy fares have complimentary access to MCE. AA Golds (and equivalents) have complimentary access until Feb. 28, 2014. Beginning Mar. 1, 2014 AA Golds and OW Plats get a 50% discount on MCE or can get MCE for free at T-24.
- Full fare coach tickets: Passengers on Y fares can select preferred MC and MCE seats for free.
- Business and First: Can be selected during or after booking.
BRITISH AIRWAYS- Economy/Premium Economy/Business: available at check-in [Note that BA charges, in fact a lot, for advance seat assignments by non status passengers traveling in paid or award business class.]
- First: available to all first class customers
- Families are generally assigned seats a few days before travel and IIRC can do OLCI a bit before general passengers.
DELTA AIR LINES- Economy: Nonstatus passengers can select any available non premium seat for free; often these are middle seats or seats in the rear of the aircraft. Elites can also select premium and exit row seats for free, IIRC up to 330 days before the flight. On most flights, the last two rows are held for gate assignment to families traveling together.
- Economy Comfort (EC): This is DL's Y+ product with more pitch and extra recline (on international configured a/c), etc. It is not a separate cabin and does not require a separate ticket. On DL "domestic" flights, EC is free anytime for GM/PM/DM, passengers on YBM fares, equivalent AF/KLM elites, and SkyTeam Elite Plus; it is free during OLCI at starting at T-24 before scheduled departure time for each segment for Silvers and at a discount for AF/KL Silvers and Virgin Australia elites. On DL operated "international" flights, EC is free for DM/PM and half price for GM at any time. There should be equivalent pricing for some partner elites, but the system doesn't work very well if partner status or codeshare flight numbers are involved.
- Full fare coach tickets: Passengers on Y/B/M fares can select premium and EC seats for free.
- Business and First: Free advanced seat assignments, IIRC beginning at 330 days before travel. No special seats are held for elites (unlike the PMNW policy).
EVA- Economy/Premium Economy: ?
- Royal Laurel: Advance seat assignments allowed at booking. Reservation can be pulled up by confirmation number or ticket number (including other airlines). Many seats are blocked until check in.
KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES- Economy:
Preferred Seats - On most intercontinental KLM flights, you can reserve preferred seats, which include window and aisle seats and seats in a row of two. There is a fee for non-elites to purchase these seats in advance.
Seats with Extra Leg Room - Seats with extra legroom depend on a/c type and the charges are EUR 20-90 per one way. - Economy Comfort (EC): This is KL's Y+ product with more pitch and extra recline (on international configured a/c), etc. It is not a separate cabin and does not require a separate ticket. KL EC can be purchased via "My Trips" up to 48 hours before departure. From 30 hours before departure, it can be purchased at OLCI or via an airport kiosk. If available, it can be purchased on board. DL DM/PM are supposed to have complimentary access to KL EC seats, although there are reported issues doing so.
- Full fare coach tickets: Not sure KL distinguishes between these fare classes.
- Business and First: Seats can be selected at booking.
KOREAN AIRLINES- Economy: ?
- Business and First Class: If you booked through koreanair.com, you can pick seats for free on line. Otherwise, you must call and can pick seats in advance, including on award tickets paid with partner miles.
SINGAPORE AIRLINES- Economy: ?
- Business and First Class, including Suites: You can call and pick seats in advance for free.
SOUTHWEST AIRLINES- All Fares: Open seating on all flights (i.e., no reserved seating/seat selections until one is on-board the airplane).
THAI AIRWAYS- Economy: ?
- Business/First: Available to all business/first class customers. If you have the confirmation number you can log in and select seats. If you dont have the PNR, a phone call or email is necessary.
UNITED AIRLINES- Economy: available online to all passengers
- Economy Plus: available online to Gold and higher at any time and Silver at on-line check-in window. Non-elites can pay to access Economy Plus (per flight or an annual subscription)
- Business/First: available online to all business/first class customers
Please edit this wiki to add your knowledge!
I ran across some issues picking seats in advance on some carriers and couldn't find a central reference, so I thought I'd create a thread we can use to document and reference the various rules. I'll start the wiki above!
I threw the ones I know off the top of my head (well, sorta) in the wiki. Ones I'm personally interested in are:
-Air China
-Asiana
-Lufthansa
I have unassigned seats in premium cabins on those flights and would like to know if I can choose them in advance, so if anyone knows, please fill out the wiki above and bump the thread! (Also, any hints such as "must call, cannot access online" would be helpful.)
I threw the ones I know off the top of my head (well, sorta) in the wiki. Ones I'm personally interested in are:
-Air China
-Asiana
-Lufthansa
I have unassigned seats in premium cabins on those flights and would like to know if I can choose them in advance, so if anyone knows, please fill out the wiki above and bump the thread! (Also, any hints such as "must call, cannot access online" would be helpful.)
Consolidated Advance Seat Selection Rules by Airline
There are stickies and/or wikis with this info for most airlines in their respective airline forums. If you are looking for a specific airline, you will likely get more up to date, accurate, and detailed information there then in the Info Desk, which due to its setup (and inherent in the "I have xx miles and want to travel to YYY" setting) unfortunately discourages many people with expertise on specific airlines from visiting. Information Desk should not substitute people going to the appropriate forum when they have a question about a specific airline or hotel. it's a bit of a misnomer- each forum is an information desk of sorts. We now have tons of duplicate threads- here on information desk and in airline fora. Was this the point of creating this forum?
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One of the purposes of this forum is cross-program comparison and discussion.Originally Posted by Adam1222
There are stickies and/or wikis with this info for most airlines in their respective airline forums. If you are looking for a specific airline, you will likely get more up to date, accurate, and detailed information there then in the Info Desk, which due to its setup (and inherent in the "I have xx miles and want to travel to YYY" setting) unfortunately discourages many people with expertise on specific airlines from visiting. Information Desk should not substitute people going to the appropriate forum when they have a question about a specific airline or hotel. it's a bit of a misnomer- each forum is an information desk of sorts. We now have tons of duplicate threads- here on information desk and in airline fora. Was this the point of creating this forum?
The information may be available elsewhere, but it's often not in a concise, easy-to-locate form. It isn't in the Alaska Airlines forum--I know, because I moderate that forum.
As for why I created this thread--well, I have a Star Alliance award booking coming up with five different carriers, three of whom I haven't yet found out how to select a seat on. I thought I'd save everyone else the hassle of sifting through an hour and a half's worth of search results to locate the same information. Ideally, I'd like to see at least a high-level overview of some of these types of issues and questions here in the Information Desk, making this forum serve as a sort of one-stop signpost for common issues with further, deeper discussion and analysis in each individual forum.
You're right that we haven't yet attracted the userbase of experts in this forum to be able to make that vision become a reality, but we already do have a healthy population of experienced flyers stopping by to provide input and assistance to less-experienced members, and I hope to see that continue to grow. There's a lot of information and data on FlyerTalk, and the purpose of this forum is to make that information accessible--kind of like the reference librarian's desk at your local library...or the information desk at your local airport (hence the name).

That all said, how this forum ends up evolving and working is still very much a work in progress.
Fwiw, I was able to choose seats for all three, Air China, Asiana and Lufthansa, for UA award bookings in business class. I don't know the official policy, but think I just went to their respective websites and put in their confirmation code.
At least for F, OZ pretty much doesn't allow you to pick a seat. Just an auto assignment in one of the middle pairs. I called OZ once and was only able to select a seat for the shorter J segment ICN-BKK
Thai website gave me the option to select seats for my Air China segment but it failed. I believe a phone call is necessary to assign a seat in most cases
Thai website gave me the option to select seats for my Air China segment but it failed. I believe a phone call is necessary to assign a seat in most cases
EVA, the seat selection rules are the same for Elite (Y+) as you have already listed for Royal Laurel. (100 days out, bulkhead/front row seats reserved for statused FF members until day of flight, etc.)
I don't know about regular economy, since I've only flown J and Y+, but I'd imagine its the same.
I don't know about regular economy, since I've only flown J and Y+, but I'd imagine its the same.
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Can you elaborate on how you did this on the Air China website? For the life of me, I could not figure out where or how to put in the confirmation code.Originally Posted by alphaeagle
Fwiw, I was able to choose seats for all three, Air China, Asiana and Lufthansa, for UA award bookings in business class. I don't know the official policy, but think I just went to their respective websites and put in their confirmation code.
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That is my issue, too.Originally Posted by sushanna1
Can you elaborate on how you did this on the Air China website? For the life of me, I could not figure out where or how to put in the confirmation code.
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Originally Posted by sushanna1
Can you elaborate on how you did this on the Air China website? For the life of me, I could not figure out where or how to put in the confirmation code.
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Hmm, I could be remembering wrong. I'll try to recreate what I did, but I do recall it wasn't straight forward. I ended of not taking the Air China flights but fairly certain I had a seat assignment without calling in.Originally Posted by jackal
That is my issue, too.
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Its possible you were able to select Air China seats from within one of the other carriers websites. Some of the carriers systems are linked up pretty well. I pulled up my TG reservation and it gave me the option to select seats on Asiana (shares same record locator) and Air China (different record locator). Although it fails when i hit save.Originally Posted by alphaeagle
Hmm, I could be remembering wrong. I'll try to recreate what I did, but I do recall it wasn't straight forward. I ended of not taking the Air China flights but fairly certain I had a seat assignment without calling in.
Asiana seems to block almost all the first class seats, most of the business class seats and about 1/2 of economy seats. i didn't have much luck when i called their reservations phone number.
BTW thanks to whoever added the formatting to make the wiki easier to read. i tried a few things but never saved as they weren't very pretty
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I don't know about regular economy, since I've only flown J and Y+, but I'd imagine its the same.
Well, booked this year's trip a few weeks ago, and the 100 day limit appears to be gone. Selected my seat at booking way more than 100 days out.Originally Posted by RandomNobody
EVA, the seat selection rules are the same for Elite (Y+) as you have already listed for Royal Laurel. (100 days out, bulkhead/front row seats reserved for statused FF members until day of flight, etc.)I don't know about regular economy, since I've only flown J and Y+, but I'd imagine its the same.
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I noticed that recently too but it was for a shorter flight though PEK-TPE for May 2015 so i didn't really think about it.Originally Posted by RandomNobody
Well, booked this year's trip a few weeks ago, and the 100 day limit appears to be gone. Selected my seat at booking way more than 100 days out.
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My flight included two transpacs 30 days apart.Originally Posted by CDKing
I noticed that recently too but it was for a shorter flight though PEK-TPE for May 2015 so i didn't really think about it.











