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Keyser Aug 18, 2017 8:15 am


Originally Posted by scuffbucket (Post 28705581)
Clearly looks like it. They seems to have jumped in this without a decent process in place.

this was apparent in the first week of launch itself....


Originally Posted by scuffbucket (Post 28705581)
What to we do now?

we wait for them to get their act together....

dealguy007 Aug 18, 2017 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 28706102)
this was apparent in the first week of launch itself....



we wait for them to get their act together....

Guys, Those who have not applied for this program...you better hold off for now. I have my police clearance completed 1 month back Indian Govt have not yet sent my document to CBP. CBP says they can't move forward until they receive a go ahead from Indian govt.

As of now Navtej Sarna seems to be the only person received this card and no one else. Even he received it because passport/police clearance is not required for him.

save your $100 and time and don't apply for this program until the process is clearly defined.

Keyser Aug 20, 2017 1:36 am

so here is a bit of disturbing info i received from a friend of mine who is a senior ranking official in the external affairs ministry....i was having dinner with him last night & we were discussing the global entry program among other things....

he said the procedure is pretty complicated & works something like this:

the first step is the interview at the passport seva office where they will upload the passport details & bio metrics & photograph....once this is complete they will initiate police verification....

the second step is the police verification whereby someone from the police will visit your home to verify certain details....once this is complete they will send their report back to the passport office....this completes phase 1 of the process....

the third step is the passport office sending their phase 1 report to the finance ministry & external affairs ministry....

the fourth step is the finance ministry forwarding the report to the ed (enforcement directorate) so that they can verify your details & check if there are no economic crimes pending against you....at the same time the external affairs ministry shall forward the report to the ib (intelligence bureau), cbi (central bureau of investigation) & raw (research and analysis wing) to check if there are any criminal proceedings pending against you....once clearances from all these agencies is received then the individual reports will be sent back to the passport seva office....this will complete phase 2 of the process....

the fifth step is the passport seva office sending a consolidated report back to the cbp letting them know whether or not they recommend the individual for entry into the global entry program....

according to my friend this whole process can take anywhere from a couple of months to a year before the report goes to the cbp....at this point he expects the average wait time to be about 6 months....as of now the external affairs ministry & the finance ministry are not even sending the phase 1 reports to the respective agencies as & when they receive them....they wait till the end of the month & then send all the reports in one go....this wastes more time....

i have no reason to not believe my friend since he is involved with this process....he admits that the process is extremely frustrating & was not thought through when it was implemented but this is the way they have decided to do things so we have no option but to wait....

scuffbucket Aug 20, 2017 7:06 am

Thank you, sir. This helps.


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 28712242)
so here is a bit of disturbing info i received from a friend of mine who is a senior ranking official in the external affairs ministry....i was having dinner with him last night & we were discussing the global entry program among other things....

he said the procedure is pretty complicated & works something like this:

the first step is the interview at the passport seva office where they will upload the passport details & bio metrics & photograph....once this is complete they will initiate police verification....

the second step is the police verification whereby someone from the police will visit your home to verify certain details....once this is complete they will send their report back to the passport office....this completes phase 1 of the process....

the third step is the passport office sending their phase 1 report to the finance ministry & external affairs ministry....

the fourth step is the finance ministry forwarding the report to the ed (enforcement directorate) so that they can verify your details & check if there are no economic crimes pending against you....at the same time the external affairs ministry shall forward the report to the ib (intelligence bureau), cbi (central bureau of investigation) & raw (research and analysis wing) to check if there are any criminal proceedings pending against you....once clearances from all these agencies is received then the individual reports will be sent back to the passport seva office....this will complete phase 2 of the process....

the fifth step is the passport seva office sending a consolidated report back to the cbp letting them know whether or not they recommend the individual for entry into the global entry program....

according to my friend this whole process can take anywhere from a couple of months to a year before the report goes to the cbp....at this point he expects the average wait time to be about 6 months....as of now the external affairs ministry & the finance ministry are not even sending the phase 1 reports to the respective agencies as & when they receive them....they wait till the end of the month & then send all the reports in one go....this wastes more time....

i have no reason to not believe my friend since he is involved with this process....he admits that the process is extremely frustrating & was not thought through when it was implemented but this is the way they have decided to do things so we have no option but to wait....


oliver2002 Aug 20, 2017 7:18 am

Holy cow, how complicated can it get? ED? RAW? IMHO only CBI makes sense. Passport is already issued so the rigmarole with the security verification sounds pointless.

obelix1 Aug 20, 2017 12:14 pm

Thanks for the details. I was given similar information when had to meet the head of RPO in the state as ground level folks were pretty much clueless. and, needless to mention me and my wife were first in the state as well (we were visiting from US 3 weeks ago).

RPO head read the memo (high level) before me (couldn't see). The only thing is that after external affairs (which is PSK, etc.) it will go to Ministry of Finance and Home Affairs (which I assume comes under Home Ministry). I think home ministry got mixed-up with external affair in the step 3.

So, basically it's a report from 3 different ministry. Then only it will go back to CBP (which would be external affairs responsibility).




Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 28712242)
so here is a bit of disturbing info i received from a friend of mine who is a senior ranking official in the external affairs ministry....i was having dinner with him last night & we were discussing the global entry program among other things....

he said the procedure is pretty complicated & works something like this:

the first step is the interview at the passport seva office where they will upload the passport details & bio metrics & photograph....once this is complete they will initiate police verification....

the second step is the police verification whereby someone from the police will visit your home to verify certain details....once this is complete they will send their report back to the passport office....this completes phase 1 of the process....

the third step is the passport office sending their phase 1 report to the finance ministry & external affairs ministry....

the fourth step is the finance ministry forwarding the report to the ed (enforcement directorate) so that they can verify your details & check if there are no economic crimes pending against you....at the same time the external affairs ministry shall forward the report to the ib (intelligence bureau), cbi (central bureau of investigation) & raw (research and analysis wing) to check if there are any criminal proceedings pending against you....once clearances from all these agencies is received then the individual reports will be sent back to the passport seva office....this will complete phase 2 of the process....

the fifth step is the passport seva office sending a consolidated report back to the cbp letting them know whether or not they recommend the individual for entry into the global entry program....

according to my friend this whole process can take anywhere from a couple of months to a year before the report goes to the cbp....at this point he expects the average wait time to be about 6 months....as of now the external affairs ministry & the finance ministry are not even sending the phase 1 reports to the respective agencies as & when they receive them....they wait till the end of the month & then send all the reports in one go....this wastes more time....

i have no reason to not believe my friend since he is involved with this process....he admits that the process is extremely frustrating & was not thought through when it was implemented but this is the way they have decided to do things so we have no option but to wait....


joyoflife Aug 22, 2017 12:06 pm

hi,
I did schedule the Background verification for GEP appointment and police verification was completed successfully as well (for me and my wife). However I did check the status in Passport seva portal and it says for both of us

Police Verification Report is not clear and application is under review at Regional Passport Office.

Is this something to worry about?

airplane7 Aug 22, 2017 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by joyoflife (Post 28721915)
hi,
I did schedule the Background verification for GEP appointment and police verification was completed successfully as well (for me and my wife). However I did check the status in Passport seva portal and it says for both of us

Police Verification Report is not clear and application is under review at Regional Passport Office.

Is this something to worry about?

I don't think I have seen this status for me or any of my friends who applied for GEP.

Keyser Aug 23, 2017 12:44 am


Originally Posted by joyoflife (Post 28721915)
hi,
I did schedule the Background verification for GEP appointment and police verification was completed successfully as well (for me and my wife). However I did check the status in Passport seva portal and it says for both of us

Police Verification Report is not clear and application is under review at Regional Passport Office.

Is this something to worry about?

this is definitely a new one....haven't come across this yet....how long back was your police verification????

GUWonder Aug 23, 2017 1:50 am


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 28724302)
this is definitely a new one....haven't come across this yet....how long back was your police verification????

This kind of language seems to be indicative of the applicant being on a path to being denied unless there is a recognized confusion over identity and that the confusion over identity is resolved.

Keyser Aug 23, 2017 2:06 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 28724439)
This kind of language seems to be indicative of the applicant being on a path to being denied unless there is a recognized confusion over identity and that the confusion over identity is resolved.

i would have to agree....

sunidhi Aug 24, 2017 5:21 am

aadhar card
 

Originally Posted by Acid (Post 28606010)
Yes - there are many in this situation - all of us here in US have same issue. Just enter your India address and take as much proof as you can.

You can apply for aadhar card online application also you can link your aadhar card with pan card.

krpatil7 Aug 27, 2017 11:03 am

HI - I am a US Permanent Resident (GC Holder) now living in India. Had applied in late July, but never received any email from Indian PSK regarding background verification. Received a "Conditional Approval Notification" few days ago, which doesn't mention anything about the Indian verification process at all - just asked me to schedule an interview (which I have, for Oct) and to bring a list of documents...
Not sure what (if anything) I can/should do? Don't want to show up for the interview and then get rejected...

krpatil7 Aug 27, 2017 11:07 am

Forgot to mention: I tried initiating the background verification process at the PSK website, but it doesn't let me do so, saying that the "GOES/GES Application ID or DOB may be incorrect *or* info not available with Passport Seva System". Any insights would be appreciated!


Originally Posted by krpatil7 (Post 28742115)
HI - I am a US Permanent Resident (GC Holder) now living in India. Had applied in late July, but never received any email from Indian PSK regarding background verification. Received a "Conditional Approval Notification" few days ago, which doesn't mention anything about the Indian verification process at all - just asked me to schedule an interview (which I have, for Oct) and to bring a list of documents...
Not sure what (if anything) I can/should do? Don't want to show up for the interview and then get rejected...


oliver2002 Aug 27, 2017 11:08 am

Green Card LPR have a different process altogether, no need to go via the 'indian' process described above.


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