question on pricing
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question on pricing
Since I am new,can anybody throw light on pricing for Buisness class tickets and the rationale for it costing more than 3 times ECONOMY[non-discounted]?I think more US orginating passengers paying their way may fly to India buisness class VFR if prices were limited to twice economy.
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Since I am new,can anybody throw light on pricing for Buisness class tickets and the rationale for it costing more than 3 times ECONOMY[non-discounted]?I think more US orginating passengers paying their way may fly to India buisness class VFR if prices were limited to twice economy.
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Since I am new,can anybody throw light on pricing for Buisness class tickets and the rationale for it costing more than 3 times ECONOMY[non-discounted]?I think more US orginating passengers paying their way may fly to India buisness class VFR if prices were limited to twice economy.
You could consider Premium Economy on BA or VS. That is normally slightly more then economy and you get better seats, leg room, luggage allowance.
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One should compare discounted biz fare with discounted economy fares with similar restrictions. Sometimes discounted biz fare can be less than or just slightly more than full Y.
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Since I am new,can anybody throw light on pricing for Buisness class tickets and the rationale for it costing more than 3 times ECONOMY[non-discounted]?I think more US orginating passengers paying their way may fly to India buisness class VFR if prices were limited to twice economy.
For uniform cross section ans uniform spacing, not counting galley size and the lav space,
Number of seats=((length of the cabin/seat pitch)+1)*number of seats abreast.
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with my usual carrier British airways on the lhr-bom route
the fares (all discounted) usually break down like this :
Y = 350
Y+ = 650
J = 1600
F = 3500
y to j = 5 x difference
y to f = 10 x difference
j to f = 2x diffrence
the fares (all discounted) usually break down like this :
Y = 350
Y+ = 650
J = 1600
F = 3500
y to j = 5 x difference
y to f = 10 x difference
j to f = 2x diffrence
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Looks like you have taken the lowest coach fare and comparing it to any odd fare in other cabins. Cheapest coach fares (cheapest World Traveller) earn only 25% miles and no tier points while all World Traveller Plus fares earn 125% miles and tier points. You need to compare fares with similar restrictions
Last edited by Yaatri; Mar 13, 2009 at 1:14 pm
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no i think you are the one who is confused:
Y means Economy
Y+ means Economy +
J means business class
F means First Class
I have mentioned that all the prices quoted are the cheapest available in those cabins.
If you want to get into Fare basis then the cheapest are usually:
M (representing the Economy cabin) is 350
T (for WT+) is 650
I (for J) is 1600
A (for F) is 3500
Y means Economy
Y+ means Economy +
J means business class
F means First Class
I have mentioned that all the prices quoted are the cheapest available in those cabins.
If you want to get into Fare basis then the cheapest are usually:
M (representing the Economy cabin) is 350
T (for WT+) is 650
I (for J) is 1600
A (for F) is 3500
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no i think you are the one who is confused:
Y means Economy
Y+ means Economy +
J means business class
F means First Class
I have mentioned that all the prices quoted are the cheapest available in those cabins.
If you want to get into Fare basis then the cheapest are usually:
M (representing the Economy cabin) is 350
T (for WT+) is 650
I (for J) is 1600
A (for F) is 3500
Y means Economy
Y+ means Economy +
J means business class
F means First Class
I have mentioned that all the prices quoted are the cheapest available in those cabins.
If you want to get into Fare basis then the cheapest are usually:
M (representing the Economy cabin) is 350
T (for WT+) is 650
I (for J) is 1600
A (for F) is 3500
M and T class LHR-BOM in March/April are nearly equal (It doesn't make sense). The business class fare you quoted is I , not J. J fare, which is full fare, is much higher. Similarly A and F are not the same thing.
I get M fare of about 615. For some reason T fare seems to be unsualy low. Even V and K are more than T. It might be a mistake. 350 for BOM is very good fare, but it's not in M class. It must be O, the cheapest and heavily discounted economy class, the class used for promotions and consolidation.
Last edited by Yaatri; Mar 13, 2009 at 4:00 pm
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I know what Fare codes are and what J, F, Y mean. I was a reservations agent at AA. I was just trying to illustrate the differences in pricing for each cabin using the abbrievated letters representing the cabins. Nothing to do with Fare codes.
My bad regarding M class, your right O class is the cheapest available. I got confused thinking about another airline.
I used Y, Y+, J and F so that so people understand the cabins the fares represent. Airlines, depending on their branding, call the cabins differently.
BA uses World Traveller while Virgin call it economy.
BA uses Club while Virgin call it Upper Class.
I was just trying to use the codes that make sense to everyone. Apart from real nerds, most people assume Y means Economy, Y+ means Economy+, J means Business class, F means First Class. I think you made a mountain out of molehill here!
My bad regarding M class, your right O class is the cheapest available. I got confused thinking about another airline.
I used Y, Y+, J and F so that so people understand the cabins the fares represent. Airlines, depending on their branding, call the cabins differently.
BA uses World Traveller while Virgin call it economy.
BA uses Club while Virgin call it Upper Class.
I was just trying to use the codes that make sense to everyone. Apart from real nerds, most people assume Y means Economy, Y+ means Economy+, J means Business class, F means First Class. I think you made a mountain out of molehill here!

