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kchitturi Dec 4, 2015 5:46 pm

Air India Flying Returns - Major changes in FFP Program
 
Hot update on AI Flying returns:

AI revamped the program to not charging YQ on international award tickets for AI metal, however redemption miles needed have been bumped up by 80% or so. One way DEL-ORD used to be 45k in Y, now it is 80k with no YQ. Miles needed double for J class.Huge devaluation especially for J

deovrat Dec 4, 2015 9:21 pm


Originally Posted by kchitturi (Post 25815641)
Hot update on AI Flying returns:

AI revamped the program to not charging YQ on international award tickets for AI metal, however redemption miles needed have been bumped up by 80% or so. One way DEL-ORD used to be 45k in Y, now it is 80k with no YQ. Miles needed double for J class.Huge devaluation especially for J

Do you have the chart or a link to the same?
The website page says "Under Construction" right now.

If J redemptions are really increasing by 100%, then this is a huge blow, YQ or no YQ.

I now just hope that the already exorbitant Star Alliance chart does not receive such an 'improvement'. :(

paag Dec 4, 2015 10:04 pm


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 25811316)
no such luck here....it just won't send the otp to either the mobile number or email....

Were you trying to login through AI's main website ?
I did it through FR's website and bingo it worked !!

deovrat Dec 4, 2015 10:22 pm


Originally Posted by paag (Post 25816500)
Were you trying to login through AI's main website ?
I did it through FR's website and bingo it worked !!

Thanks for the tip ! @:-)

Keyser Dec 4, 2015 11:21 pm


Originally Posted by kchitturi (Post 25815641)
Hot update on AI Flying returns:

AI revamped the program to not charging YQ on international award tickets for AI metal, however redemption miles needed have been bumped up by 80% or so. One way DEL-ORD used to be 45k in Y, now it is 80k with no YQ. Miles needed double for J class.Huge devaluation especially for J

major devaluation if this is true....

Keyser Dec 4, 2015 11:21 pm


Originally Posted by paag (Post 25816500)
Were you trying to login through AI's main website ?
I did it through FR's website and bingo it worked !!

tried that on the first day....no luck....

Keyser Dec 4, 2015 11:54 pm


Originally Posted by GuyFromBOM (Post 25813951)
Using the Update Profile option.

were you able to change the number back after registration????

deovrat Dec 4, 2015 11:55 pm


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 25816651)
tried that on the first day....no luck....

Worked for me an hour back..

Keyser Dec 5, 2015 12:18 am


Originally Posted by deovrat (Post 25816717)
Worked for me an hour back..

i guess i'll try again....hopefully it should work this time....

Bioflyer Dec 5, 2015 1:22 am


Originally Posted by paag (Post 25816500)
Were you trying to login through AI's main website ?
I did it through FR's website and bingo it worked !!

+1

AI website each time leads to crap OTP requirement which never comes, FR website just works fine

Other way around, try logging in from AI website and once on OTP page, click "Logout" and re-login - It works fine each time without OTP sh*t!

kchitturi Dec 5, 2015 3:06 am


Originally Posted by deovrat (Post 25816392)
Do you have the chart or a link to the same?
The website page says "Under Construction" right now.

If J redemptions are really increasing by 100%, then this is a huge blow, YQ or no YQ.

I now just hope that the already exorbitant Star Alliance chart does not receive such an 'improvement'. :(

I visited the local AI office to process a redemption, the lady at the desk informed me of this and showed me an internal email containing the new chart, noted down a couple of sectors that I use. BOM-LHR is 45K OW and All India to North America sectors (SFO,YYZ,EWR,ORD,JFK) got repriced to 80K OW. Another new levy is additional 5K miles charge if you use offline (city office, telephone(?) etc) booking.

SuperFlyBoy Dec 5, 2015 3:11 am


Originally Posted by kchitturi (Post 25816967)
I visited the local AI office to process a redemption, the lady at the desk informed me of this and showed me an internal email containing the new chart, noted down a couple of sectors that I use. BOM-LHR is 45K OW and All India to North America sectors (SFO,YYZ,EWR,ORD,JFK) got repriced to 80K OW. Another new levy is additional 5K miles charge if you use offline (city office, telephone(?) etc) booking.

On par with United's redemptions. (Except for the 5k in person bit...)

Question is, how much YQ??

deovrat Dec 5, 2015 4:07 am


Originally Posted by kchitturi (Post 25816967)
I visited the local AI office to process a redemption, the lady at the desk informed me of this and showed me an internal email containing the new chart, noted down a couple of sectors that I use. BOM-LHR is 45K OW and All India to North America sectors (SFO,YYZ,EWR,ORD,JFK) got repriced to 80K OW. Another new levy is additional 5K miles charge if you use offline (city office, telephone(?) etc) booking.

Thanks for the info.
The additional offline charge is a rip-off !

I just fear that some incompetent folks at AI FFP will also want to charge these fees for Star A redemptions, which can't be made online at all.


Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy (Post 25816972)
On par with United's redemptions. (Except for the 5k in person bit...)

Question is, how much YQ??

The OP states that they have removed YQ component as a softener for this devaluation.

deovrat Dec 5, 2015 4:23 am

Just noticed this on AI-FR website, which wasn't present earlier (bolding mine):


"YQ is no longer chargeable on international award tickets. Only non airline taxes are to be paid plus miles.
Flying Returns members can also redeem miles for upgrading the eligible paid class tickets in domestic and international network of Air India.
The miles required for economy to business class upgrade depend on the RBD/Booking class of the Economy class ticket to be upgraded and range from 60% to 190% of normal economy class redemption miles for that sector."


60% - 190% !! Previously it was a flat 75%.
Huge devaluation in most cases of booking classes then.

paag Dec 5, 2015 5:06 am


Originally Posted by kchitturi (Post 25816967)
North America sectors (SFO,YYZ,EWR,ORD,JFK) got repriced to 80K OW.

YYZ ? Interesting.
Have they finally eliminated charging on a point to point basis thereby allowing stopovers and open jaws ?


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