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abhilife2001 May 4, 2016 3:35 am


Originally Posted by paag (Post 25841741)
PNQ - ORD (or other US cities) now priced at 85000 miles. Looks like for connecting flights they are charging 5500 miles flat!
Not sure of this though.


Originally Posted by Bioflyer (Post 25841592)
Earlier: AMD-DEL was priced at 7500 miles where as a connecting flight via BOM was priced at 4500 for AMD-BOM and 9500 for BOM-DEL so a total of 14000 miles.

Now: Even the connecting flights are priced at 5500 miles.

Conclusion: Is it that at least for "DOMESTIC" point to point award pricing is gone?


Originally Posted by Bioflyer (Post 25841915)
Don't understand this:

DEL-HKG priced at 35K OW and even
AMD-HKG (via DEL) priced at 35K!!


Originally Posted by A2A (Post 25841973)
as long as you are on AI metal there will be point to point pricing.

So, have finally been successful in getting my AI status to "Pending" as there were (and still are) issues with using same phone number + email id for minors..Apparently they think kids of 4-5 years should have different phone number and email ids :eek:

Anyway, have a question :

IIRC, I read in these forums, that point to point pricing would be done even if there are connecting flights.. question is where to see the miles requirements for those for AI metal ?

For eg..
Domestic flights -- Am trying to price Kolkata - Jammu / Goa / Kochi Moscow / etc etc and it does not give option to select these destinations if I give origin as Kolkata ? Does it mean I need to pay separately for say Kol - Delhi and then Delhi - Jammu ?

What about international legs - I thought now from India to say New York or SFO or Moscow or Bangkok would be same miles regardless of the domestic connection in India ? Same issue like for domestic as in cannot even search these as destinations giving origin as Kolkata.

I assume I am missing some trick to price the above reasonably ..

Please advise.

Thanks

deovrat May 4, 2016 4:50 am


Originally Posted by abhilife2001 (Post 26574989)
Domestic flights -- Am trying to price Kolkata - Jammu / Goa / Kochi Moscow / etc etc and it does not give option to select these destinations if I give origin as Kolkata ? Does it mean I need to pay separately for say Kol - Delhi and then Delhi - Jammu ?

Sadly, yes.

abhilife2001 May 4, 2016 5:27 am


Originally Posted by deovrat (Post 26575157)
Sadly, yes.

ohk.. but seemed from some posts in this thread that for international sectors, it was different for some routes..Eg.. AMD - HKG

deovrat May 4, 2016 6:03 am


Originally Posted by abhilife2001 (Post 26575235)
ohk.. but seemed from some posts in this thread that for international sectors, it was different for some routes..Eg.. AMD - HKG

It differs if the same flight continues onwards or not.
e.g. HYD-DEL-ORD flight carries flight no AI127 all the way through. It costs 80000 one-way in economy.
However, a PNQ-DEL-ORD redemption, which involves 2 different flight numbers, costs 85000 one-way in economy.

Its a frustrating FFP. :td:

abhilife2001 May 4, 2016 6:32 am


Originally Posted by deovrat (Post 26575323)
It differs if the same flight continues onwards or not.
e.g. HYD-DEL-ORD flight carries flight no AI127 all the way through. It costs 80000 one-way in economy.
However, a PNQ-DEL-ORD redemption, which involves 2 different flight numbers, costs 85000 one-way in economy.

Its a frustrating FFP. :td:

Thanks for the info :(

abhilife2001 May 10, 2016 8:40 am

AI Y seat availability
 
Hello,

IIRC, earlier even if there were very few seats available in Economy, those were available for redemption, has that changed ?

Trying to see availability for some dates in May end - June end between Delhi & Moscow and it always shows no availability even though revenue tickets are available. :(

Appreciate advise from folks who have redeemed lately..

Thanks

Keyser May 11, 2016 3:30 am


Originally Posted by abhilife2001 (Post 26603406)
Hello,

IIRC, earlier even if there were very few seats available in Economy, those were available for redemption, has that changed ?

Trying to see availability for some dates in May end - June end between Delhi & Moscow and it always shows no availability even though revenue tickets are available. :(

Appreciate advise from folks who have redeemed lately..

Thanks

they changed this a while back....now only a fixed number of seats are available for redemption....

abhilife2001 May 13, 2016 4:15 am


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 26608063)
they changed this a while back....now only a fixed number of seats are available for redemption....

aha.. so this feature of good availability has been "enhanced" away..

abhilife2001 May 13, 2016 4:21 am

Upgrades on *A
 
Found this on the FR website.. Just to reconfirm.

Seems *A upgrade awards will only be possible if its from the highest ticket bucket.. i.e from Economy to business upgrade is possible only if the Eco ticket is in Y or B class :eek:

So any kind of discounted ticket is not eligible .. :td:

deovrat May 13, 2016 4:54 am


Originally Posted by abhilife2001 (Post 26619030)
Found this on the FR website.. Just to reconfirm.

Seems *A upgrade awards will only be possible if its from the highest ticket bucket.. i.e from Economy to business upgrade is possible only if the Eco ticket is in Y or B class :eek:

So any kind of discounted ticket is not eligible .. :td:

Every Star Alliance FFP has the same policy...upgrades on the network are available only on the higher class fares.. not specific to AI.

abhilife2001 May 13, 2016 5:04 am


Originally Posted by deovrat (Post 26619109)
Every Star Alliance FFP has the same policy...upgrades on the network are available only on the higher class fares.. not specific to AI.

hmm.. thanks for the info..

bluecrabs May 31, 2016 11:18 am

I am trying to redeem DEL-SFO flight on miles and when I try to pay the taxes using credit card I am constantly getting some or the other error.
"Payment system error - please retry"

Tried with Visa/Master & Amex..
What are my options here? I don't want to lose the award availability waiting for it to work.. TIA

Keyser May 31, 2016 11:37 am


Originally Posted by bluecrabs (Post 26706395)
I am trying to redeem DEL-SFO flight on miles and when I try to pay the taxes using credit card I am constantly getting some or the other error.
"Payment system error - please retry"

Tried with Visa/Master & Amex..
What are my options here? I don't want to lose the award availability waiting for it to work.. TIA

call ai & make the booking over the phone or go to the ai office....

abhilife2001 May 31, 2016 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by bluecrabs (Post 26706395)
I am trying to redeem DEL-SFO flight on miles and when I try to pay the taxes using credit card I am constantly getting some or the other error.
"Payment system error - please retry"

Tried with Visa/Master & Amex..
What are my options here? I don't want to lose the award availability waiting for it to work.. TIA

also try with other browser.. I was able to resolve a similar issue last year when either mozilla or chrome did not work properly and the other did..

Keyser Jun 1, 2016 12:08 am

ai has completely ruined the best benefits of its ffp....one of their best features used to be the ability to upgrade your ticket using miles....while they have still retained that, the number of miles required to upgrade now makes no sense....

i have a personal trip coming up to atq next month....the tickets were very well priced at inr 1,286 one way....even though its a short less than an hour flight, they are flying the dreamliner on this route so i thought about upgrading my ticket using miles....normally this trip in business would set you back 12k miles but with the current 40% off promotion ai is running, this would have only cost me 7,200 miles....ai on the other hand wanted 10,800 miles for me to upgrade my ticket....who in their right mind would even consider such a ridiculous deal????

i've said it before & i'll say it again, ai has completely butchered one of the best benefits of their ffp....


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