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akanksha.chawla Aug 6, 2012 12:02 pm

JPMiles Conversion to Any US program
 
I have around 20,000 JPMiles which will expire by end of next month.
Is there any US program(Hotel/Airline) where I can transfer these?

A2A Aug 6, 2012 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by akanksha.chawla (Post 19069778)
I have around 20,000 JPMiles which will expire by end of next month.
Is there any US program(Hotel/Airline) where I can transfer these?

i don't think you can transfer these to any program, not to my knowledge. however, if you have any travels coming up, Jet books award tickets on United, US Airways, Delta and American... amongst others. only condition, it cannot be canceled or changed after booking.

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/JetP...epartners.aspx

Yaatri Aug 6, 2012 3:50 pm

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Is 20000 thousand miles enough for a round trip award on UA.

Keyser Aug 7, 2012 5:49 am


Originally Posted by A2A (Post 19070290)
i don't think you can transfer these to any program, not to my knowledge. however, if you have any travels coming up, Jet books award tickets on United, US Airways, Delta and American... amongst others. only condition, it cannot be canceled or changed after booking.

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/JetP...epartners.aspx

you are right....the miles cannot be transferred....booking on one of the american carriers would be the op's best bet....

Keyser Aug 7, 2012 5:50 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19071206)
Is 20000 thousand miles enough for a round trip award on UA.

probably not....don't you need 12.k miles for a one way????

Yaatri Aug 7, 2012 10:29 am


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 19074134)
probably not....don't you need 12.k miles for a one way????

As far as I know you are correct. I just wanted to confirm. Actually I read the response hurriedly and only UA stood out in my mind. What about he rest of the airlines?
Some will allow one way ticket. Not many need to use a one way trip.


The suggestion of booking an award ticket with JP miles on UA/DL/US/AA is quite silly.

A2A Aug 7, 2012 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19075642)

The suggestion of booking an award ticket with JP miles on UA/DL/US/AA is quite silly.

Care to explain why?

Keyser Aug 7, 2012 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19075642)
The suggestion of booking an award ticket with JP miles on UA/DL/US/AA is quite silly.

i disagree....over the last 2-3 years i've booked dozens of flight on ua & aa using 9w miles....some routes are great value using 9w miles....routes like lga-ord & pdx-lax have only cost me 2.5k 9w miles + inr 125....

mohitmadaan Aug 7, 2012 4:31 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19071206)
Is 20000 thousand miles enough for a round trip award on UA.

you can take a world tour with that and still have enough left in account :D

Yaatri Aug 7, 2012 7:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Keyser

Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19075642)
The suggestion of booking an award ticket with JP miles on UA/DL/US/AA is quite silly.

i disagree....over the last 2-3 years i've booked dozens of flight on ua & aa using 9w miles....some routes are great value using 9w miles....routes like lga-ord & pdx-lax have only cost me 2.5k 9w miles + inr 125....

Oh wow! Only 2.5k miles and about $2.50. How does Jet do that when a round trip award within North America is 25k miles + the security fee?
Are 9W miles cost more to earn? Why would UA or DL or any other other US carrier give the award unless Jet pays the difference in cash?
Isn't that a disastrous heading?
What am I missing here?

PVDtoDEL Aug 7, 2012 8:19 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19078819)
Oh wow! Only 2.5k miles and about $2.50. How does Jet do that when a round trip award within North America is 25k miles + the security fee?
Are 9W miles cost more to earn? Why would UA or DL or any other other US carrier give the award unless Jet pays the difference in cash?
Isn't that a disastrous heading?
What am I missing here?

Jet doesn't pay UA or DL in miles - it buys award tickets in cash... if jet values 2.5k miles as the amount it costs to book an award ticket (or more), then they won't "lose money" on the transaction.

hyderago Aug 7, 2012 9:09 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19078819)
Oh wow! Only 2.5k miles and about $2.50. How does Jet do that when a round trip award within North America is 25k miles + the security fee?
Are 9W miles cost more to earn? Why would UA or DL or any other other US carrier give the award unless Jet pays the difference in cash?
Isn't that a disastrous heading?
What am I missing here?

It's probably a typo. My guess is Keyser meant to type 12.5k, not 2.5k.

Yaatri Aug 7, 2012 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by mohitmadaan (Post 19078087)
you can take a world tour with that and still have enough left in account :D

Yes, You can take send 200 friends on a honeymoon to Milan. :D

Yaatri Aug 7, 2012 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by hyderago (Post 19079271)
It's probably a typo. My guess is Keyser meant to type 12.5k, not 2.5k.

That's one way award. Do all if them issue one way awards? You still have 7500 miles left.

Yaatri Aug 7, 2012 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL (Post 19079070)
Jet doesn't pay UA or DL in miles - it buys award tickets in cash... if jet values 2.5k miles as the amount it costs to book an award ticket (or more), then they won't "lose money" on the transaction.

It doesn't really matter for my argument whether jet pays in cash or miles.

A2A Aug 7, 2012 11:21 pm


Originally Posted by hyderago (Post 19079271)
It's probably a typo. My guess is Keyser meant to type 12.5k, not 2.5k.

no it is not. 2.5 k miles it is in economy. plus the 2.5$. And you can look it up on the 9w website as well

A2A Aug 7, 2012 11:23 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19079423)
That's one way award. Do all if them issue one way awards? You still have 7500 miles left.

at least UA and US Airways do. and with the 2.5K cost, the OP can book 8 short haul segments.

Keyser Aug 8, 2012 2:03 am


Originally Posted by hyderago (Post 19079271)
It's probably a typo. My guess is Keyser meant to type 12.5k, not 2.5k.


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19079423)
That's one way award. Do all if them issue one way awards? You still have 7500 miles left.

it's 2.5k miles....i booked about half a dozen one way redemptions at this rate in may this year....

Keyser Aug 8, 2012 2:03 am


Originally Posted by A2A (Post 19079726)
at least UA and US Airways do.

aa as well....

Keyser Aug 8, 2012 2:06 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19078819)
Oh wow! Only 2.5k miles and about $2.50. How does Jet do that when a round trip award within North America is 25k miles + the security fee?
Are 9W miles cost more to earn? Why would UA or DL or any other other US carrier give the award unless Jet pays the difference in cash?
Isn't that a disastrous heading?
What am I missing here?

if you go on the 'online partner redemption' page on the jet site, you can see the option of putting in different routes to see how much miles are required....most of the popular routes are 15k miles but there are a lot that are also 10k, 5k & as low as 2.5k....

Yaatri Aug 8, 2012 10:56 am


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 19080148)
if you go on the 'online partner redemption' page on the jet site, you can see the option of putting in different routes to see how much miles are required....most of the popular routes are 15k miles but there are a lot that are also 10k, 5k & as low as 2.5k....

A paid transcon trip on a Jet Airlines American partner will net you more than twice that many miles. I wonder about the "Buy one and get two free" logic. How does Jet intend to pay for these It's an excellent deal though.
Evidently not many JP members know about this. Having been with US, AA and UA at various times I finally settled with NW and now delta over a decade ago. Sometimes I have to fly other airlines. Those orphaned miles die as I just don't feel like taking the time to juggle my miles. Life is too short to be juggling miles.

Yaatri Aug 8, 2012 11:06 am


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 19080142)
aa as well....

I know some do, but not which ones. It's a lot of work to keep up with different programmes and their rules.
Come to think of it, isn't it immaterial whether UA has one way award. You are redeeming JP miles, if JP allows one way awards, it can ask for one way ticket.

PVDtoDEL Aug 8, 2012 11:57 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19082614)
A paid transcon trip on a Jet Airlines American partner will net you more than twice that many miles. I wonder about the "Buy one and get two free" logic. How does Jet intend to pay for these It's an excellent deal though.

You cannot get a transcon for 2.5k miles. The routes which cost 2.5k miles are generally short.

Yaatri Aug 8, 2012 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL (Post 19083079)
You cannot get a transcon for 2.5k miles. The routes which cost 2.5k miles are generally short.

I misread LGA-ORD&PDX-LAX as transcon. Regardless a transcon is not typically 10 times the price of LGA-ORD, or even PDX-LAX.

PVDtoDEL Aug 8, 2012 2:02 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19083705)
I misread LGA-ORD&PDX-LAX as transcon. Regardless a transcon is not typically 10 times the price of LGA-ORD, or even PDX-LAX.

I don't know about that. PVD-EWR (random example) can usually had for $39 or $49 each way with advanced purchase... A transcon from PVD is usually $200+ each way.

So the transcon is roughly 4-5x more expensive than the short hop. Similarly, a 12.5k mile transcon is 5x more expensive than a 2.5k short hop.

This is a very specific example, but pricing doesn't look too wacky..

Yaatri Aug 9, 2012 10:16 am


Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL (Post 19084022)
I don't know about that. PVD-EWR (random example) can usually had for $39 or $49 each way with advanced purchase... A transcon from PVD is usually $200+ each way.

So the transcon is roughly 4-5x more expensive than the short hop. Similarly, a 12.5k mile transcon is 5x more expensive than a 2.5k short hop.

This is a very specific example, but pricing doesn't look too wacky..

Are you talking about 1984? One might find the fares you have quoted above but are not "usual" fares for the route. Shuttles are another matter.

But what is it you are trying to say? That 2.5k is not a fantastic deal?

paragbmehta Jan 7, 2013 3:08 pm

Is the redemption option for this 2.5k miles thing available online or one needs to call the JP team and get it? I tried checking online but could not come across anything

A2A Jan 7, 2013 9:18 pm


Originally Posted by paragbmehta (Post 19996449)
Is the redemption option for this 2.5k miles thing available online or one needs to call the JP team and get it? I tried checking online but could not come across anything

What 2.5 k miles thing ??

paragbmehta Jan 7, 2013 9:45 pm

2500 jp miles for a award ticket on aa or United

AJLondon Jan 7, 2013 9:48 pm


Originally Posted by paragbmehta (Post 19999014)
2500 jp miles for a award ticket on aa or United

All partner awards to be booked on phone or thru downloading the request form on the website and then sending it across to JP. Response received by email usually.

paragbmehta Jan 7, 2013 9:52 pm


Originally Posted by AJLondon (Post 19999031)
All partner awards to be booked on phone or thru downloading the request form on the website and then sending it across to JP. Response received by email usually.

Got it. Thanks :)

bpbindaas Jan 8, 2013 12:58 am

the 2.5k thing looks too good to be true!

IAH-LAX 2500 miles
IAH-SAN 2500 miles

Has anyone actually redeemed on these sectors?:confused:

Keyser Jan 9, 2013 5:33 am


Originally Posted by bpbindaas (Post 19999843)
the 2.5k thing looks too good to be true!

IAH-LAX 2500 miles
IAH-SAN 2500 miles

Has anyone actually redeemed on these sectors?:confused:

not these sectors but i have redeemed on 2.5k routes multiple times over the last couple of years....

i have a dca-bos flight booked for next week in business for 5k miles....

bpbindaas Jan 9, 2013 6:04 am


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 20008709)
i have a dca-bos flight booked for next week in business for 5k miles....

Wicked!!! :D

deepakvalecha Jan 9, 2013 7:11 am

Hang on to those 2.5k hopes
 
Um, i dont see JFK, LGA etc even listed in the dropdown on the JetPaise online partner award request form, forget about seeing the miles requirement - most of the ones i looked showed as 15k. Am i missing something, or do i need better glasses! :confused:

Keyser Jan 9, 2013 7:19 am


Originally Posted by deepakvalecha (Post 20009162)
Um, i dont see JFK, LGA etc even listed in the dropdown on the JetPaise online partner award request form, forget about seeing the miles requirement - most of the ones i looked showed as 15k. Am i missing something, or do i need better glasses! :confused:

there is a partner award chart available for download somewhere on the jet site....download that & it will tell you which sectors you can redeem for 2.5k miles....

hyho61 Jan 15, 2013 9:19 am

I learnt something new, this is fantastic deal. Jet is giving away award tickets at 2.5k miles, no one else does that. I have some orphaned miles in Jet and was wondering how to use it. I will try this.

Whizkid Jan 15, 2013 8:11 pm

Did any one redeem JP Miles for short sectors (Like the one Keyser mentioned) recently?

Keyser Jan 15, 2013 8:19 pm


Originally Posted by Whizkid (Post 20055385)
Did any one redeem JP Miles for short sectors (Like the one Keyser mentioned) recently?

redeemed a few weeks ago....flying dca-bos tomorrow....

Whizkid Jan 15, 2013 9:55 pm

Found it:


NORTH EAST USA & CANADA 1 - Baltimore, Boston,
Chicago Ohare, Detroit, Montreal Trudeau, New York, JFK,
Newark, Philadelphia, Toronto and Washington Dulles

SOUTH EAST USA & CARIBBEAN ISLANDS 1 - Atlanta,
Kingston Manley, Memphis, Miami International, Orlando
International and Tampa

SOUTH WEST USA & MEXICO 1 - Dallas Ft. Worth,
Houston, Los Angeles, Phoenix and San Diego

NORTH WEST USA & CANADA 1 - Denver, Minneapolis St
Pl, San Francisco, Seattle and Vancouver
Flights betw the cities in the zone, for 2500 Miles.

But when you look at, for some similar short(er) segments, the 15K miles are required. :mad:


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