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Anish Jul 31, 2012 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by ashishp (Post 19036824)
Unless you are a govt babu or something, AI is not very upgrade friendly: atleast not op-up. Jet is also more upgrade friendly that way: which may explain the role premium seating played in their business model. They treated their FF's like kings! that is also changing now eh?

Yes.. I've flew 21 flights with them in July and June, got op-up'ed once. Primarily cause it's off season and Y was never overbooked to warrant an upgrade, but it used to be a LOT more easier a year or two ago.

ashishp Jul 31, 2012 11:22 pm


Originally Posted by Anish (Post 19037802)
Yes.. I've flew 21 flights with them in July and June, got op-up'ed once. Primarily cause it's off season and Y was never overbooked to warrant an upgrade, but it used to be a LOT more easier a year or two ago.

speaking of Jet?

Problem is many FF's on Jet have gotten spoilt rotten at the royal treatment and upgrades, especially the Platinum types. Now with the goodie cart being locked up, they are going to be hopping mad!

jasepl Aug 1, 2012 1:45 am

Jet started losing their mojo a long time ago, when they largely got themselves into a financial predicament. Then, like we've seen with so many other businesses, they forgot the difference between cost and value/quality.

In economy, the deterioration is far less start than up front (which is where the real money is to be made). Now all they have left is a solid hard product and reliability. The two will enable them to stay afloat, but little more.

They really need to learn from this phrase, which is rather apt as Jet have gone on and on and on about fuel prices and costs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...rnJetLearn.jpg

Not that I'm implying Delta are the personification of said phrase. The learning is in the message, not the messenger.

Anish Aug 1, 2012 4:29 am


Originally Posted by ashishp (Post 19037964)
speaking of Jet?

Problem is many FF's on Jet have gotten spoilt rotten at the royal treatment and upgrades, especially the Platinum types. Now with the goodie cart being locked up, they are going to be hopping mad!

Yes speaking of Jet.. Where can we hop around though? I fly over a hundred domestic Y flights a year and find a half decent alternative to 9W. (Please don't say AI, please don't.)

AA_EXP09 Aug 1, 2012 6:26 am


Originally Posted by Anish (Post 19038708)
Yes speaking of Jet.. Where can we hop around though? I fly over a hundred domestic Y flights a year and find a half decent alternative to 9W. (Please don't say AI, please don't.)

IT

onlysuites Aug 1, 2012 6:36 am


Originally Posted by AA_EXP09 (Post 19039074)
IT

You are not serious are you?

I wouldn't flt IT if they gave me half price fares. On a flight in business 2 months back they didn't load any food nor did they have any cold drinks. Wrote of a complaint letter and followed it up 3 times now and they haven't even acknowledged it yet.

Does the IFE work now? Last time I flew they hadn't paid the bills so only a few Hindi programs and Movies.

Keyser Aug 1, 2012 7:49 am


Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 19039108)
You are not serious are you?

I wouldn't flt IT if they gave me half price fares. On a flight in business 2 months back they didn't load any food nor did they have any cold drinks. Wrote of a complaint letter and followed it up 3 times now and they haven't even acknowledged it yet.

Does the IFE work now? Last time I flew they hadn't paid the bills so only a few Hindi programs and Movies.

i've taken a few kingfisher flights over the last couple of months....the condition of the aircrafts is getting worse by the day but i have no complaints as far as the food & service is concerned....

GUWonder Aug 1, 2012 8:00 am


Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 19039108)
You are not serious are you?

I wouldn't flt IT if they gave me half price fares. On a flight in business 2 months back they didn't load any food nor did they have any cold drinks. Wrote of a complaint letter and followed it up 3 times now and they haven't even acknowledged it yet.

Does the IFE work now? Last time I flew they hadn't paid the bills so only a few Hindi programs and Movies.

I have been flying IT a lot last month between DEL and SXR in business class -- mostly because the flights were cheaper in business class than economy class on any carrier (including the likes of GoAir/Spicejet) at the time of booking.

The IFE was problematic on most of my IT flights, but meals were good. The IT seats or tray tables needed cleaning, but my 9W flights in economy class last month also needed major seat and tray table cleaning too. My miles posted to my airline programs of choice.

Yaatri Aug 1, 2012 8:01 am


Originally Posted by Babu (Post 19036934)
I never got an op up on AI! :D


Originally Posted by Anish (Post 19037802)
Yes.. I've flew 21 flights with them in July and June, got op-up'ed once. Primarily cause it's off season and Y was never overbooked to warrant an upgrade, but it used to be a LOT more easier a year or two ago.

:confused: Why is OPUP an issue?
OpuP is another entitlement that, in my opinion, is not a reasonable criterion for judging an airline.

Yaatri Aug 1, 2012 8:08 am


Originally Posted by ashishp (Post 19036824)
Unless you are a govt babu or something, AI is not very upgrade friendly: atleast not op-up. Jet is also more upgrade friendly that way: which may explain the role premium seating played in their business model. They treated their FF's like kings! that is also changing now eh?

OpUP is a windfall. That's hardly a basis for determining quality.




Originally Posted by ashishp (Post 19036824)
so are u saying basically that the premium model is not viable in India AT ALL?

What I am saying is that expenses have to be paid for. Prices need to be raised, even in economy class. As for Premium model. I don't know what you mean by it.


Originally Posted by ashishp (Post 19036824)
Jet is also now scaled back to 8 seats from 28. Even their new 900 aircraft, which used to have 32 J earlier now has only 16.

Assuming you are talking about B737s, 8 is too few and 28 too many.





Originally Posted by ashishp (Post 19036824)
I am not sure what you mean here.

AI is not a bells-and-whistles airline in J: not in domestic. Basic and predictable service. But if we are paying a premium, i do not want to see broken seats and stuff like that. Jet is loosing the game IMO, and due to their own mismanagement.

In these envrions, AI is the worst. Any effort to bring reason to the moderate the hatred is met with hostility. :D

Yaatri Aug 1, 2012 8:17 am

CCWLRFF
 

Originally Posted by ashishp (Post 19037964)
speaking of Jet?

Problem is many FF's on Jet have gotten spoilt rotten at the royal treatment and upgrades, especially the Platinum types. Now with the goodie cart being locked up, they are going to be hopping mad!

Of course you are right. But that's not what people want to hear.
People want freebies which Jet can neither afford, nor is willing to give anymore. It's more acute among the new FF's as all they have seen is the mad rush to lure customers.

Credit Card Wielding Low-Rev Frequent Fliers.
Then credit card is pretty new in India too. :D

Yaatri Aug 1, 2012 8:18 am


Originally Posted by Anish (Post 19038708)
Yes speaking of Jet.. Where can we hop around though? I fly over a hundred domestic Y flights a year and find a half decent alternative to 9W. (Please don't say AI, please don't.)

On to mother earth, also called reality.

AA_EXP09 Aug 1, 2012 8:21 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19039553)
:confused: Why is OPUP an issue?
OpuP is another entitlement that, in my opinion, is not a reasonable criterion for judging an airline.

If I'm more likely to get an opup on one airline vs another, then I will fly it more.
This is one of the reasons why I switched to flying CX TPAC from AC (well, there are several...)

Yaatri Aug 1, 2012 8:37 am


Originally Posted by AA_EXP09 (Post 19039652)
If I'm more likely to get an opup on one airline vs another, then I will fly it more.
This is one of the reasons why I switched to flying CX TPAC from AC (well, there are several...)

Yes, I understand that. But that does not mean it's good for every one. It does little for airline quality as a whole.

One can and should switch to an airline that meets their needs best. It's personal matter.

Anish Aug 1, 2012 9:53 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 19039640)
On to mother earth, also called reality.

What?


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