Coach to Delhi - which airline is preferable?
#18
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PDX
Programs: Don't think it matters...
Posts: 5,240
AI seems the most decent as told by many fellow fter's.. otherwise EK if the prices r similiar..wont pay more for a stopover flt ..
#20
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 51
Ok... now leaning towards AI from JFK.
I love that they arrive late afternoon in Delhi - that's a huge bonus.
It just seems that those who dislike this airline REALLY dislike it.
Its hard to navigate their website or find any information about inflight services...
I shouldn't be, but I find myself worried about using an Indian carrier for such a long flight. That's silly, right?
I love that they arrive late afternoon in Delhi - that's a huge bonus.
It just seems that those who dislike this airline REALLY dislike it.
Its hard to navigate their website or find any information about inflight services...
I shouldn't be, but I find myself worried about using an Indian carrier for such a long flight. That's silly, right?
#21
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NYC / Chelsea
Programs: Delta, Avios, Chase
Posts: 1,099
Flying Lisa -
People definitely have a hatred for AI, and I think their one-stop flights to India are probably deserving of such hatred, because the aircraft is old and dingy...
however, the nonstop service from JFK is on brand new 777 aircraft with AVOD in each seat in whY and ubercheap fares. There is also a USB port to charge your ipod or ipod touch or play your own movies on the AVOD.
I think there are 3 meals served, with a snack tray set out in between meal services (one meal upon leaving New York, one meal while crossing Finland into CCCP, and one final meal while over Kabul)... free booze... an altogether pleasant experience. Getting in to DEL at 5pm is v convenient for an on-going connection, or for getting on to your hotel.
It's also ubercheap, including in J.
People definitely have a hatred for AI, and I think their one-stop flights to India are probably deserving of such hatred, because the aircraft is old and dingy...
however, the nonstop service from JFK is on brand new 777 aircraft with AVOD in each seat in whY and ubercheap fares. There is also a USB port to charge your ipod or ipod touch or play your own movies on the AVOD.
I think there are 3 meals served, with a snack tray set out in between meal services (one meal upon leaving New York, one meal while crossing Finland into CCCP, and one final meal while over Kabul)... free booze... an altogether pleasant experience. Getting in to DEL at 5pm is v convenient for an on-going connection, or for getting on to your hotel.
It's also ubercheap, including in J.
#22
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: India
Programs: Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Trident Plat, DL Diamond, AI Maharajah
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Ok... now leaning towards AI from JFK.
I love that they arrive late afternoon in Delhi - that's a huge bonus.
It just seems that those who dislike this airline REALLY dislike it.
Its hard to navigate their website or find any information about inflight services...
I shouldn't be, but I find myself worried about using an Indian carrier for such a long flight. That's silly, right?
I love that they arrive late afternoon in Delhi - that's a huge bonus.
It just seems that those who dislike this airline REALLY dislike it.
Its hard to navigate their website or find any information about inflight services...
I shouldn't be, but I find myself worried about using an Indian carrier for such a long flight. That's silly, right?
#24
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: AA EXP2M, DL 1MM DM ext, UA PP <=> HH G/Marr PE/Hyatt G/IHG P FT RA ( Recovering Addict)
Posts: 4,596
I have been on AI (not in past 4 years after MANY terrible experiences).
I now go on AA and upgrade with a VIP. economy plus cost, C value. Lastly I get 30k RDMs and 15k elite miles.
100% bonus on AA, 100% bonus on CO/US for CO/LH, 125% on DL for AF with US carriers.
I like my free domestic upgrades and want to keep them coming. I would go CO or AA for that alone.
AA prices are about the same and you can do a Gold Challenge before the flight and get to Gold (exit rows) for the return and even Plat by the time you return if you avoid the cheapest 3 classes. That will get you 100% bonus miles for almost 2 years and free lounge for any intl flights on OW as well as better service locally.
Last edited by ffI; Aug 8, 2010 at 3:00 pm
#25
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NYC / Chelsea
Programs: Delta, Avios, Chase
Posts: 1,099
Never. The flights can get cancelled if some minister has a medical issue and his whole retinue has to go abroad with him.
I have been on AI (not in past 4 years after MANY terrible experiences).
I now go on AA and upgrade with a VIP. economy plus cost, C value. Lastly I get 30k RDMs and 15k elite miles.
100% bonus on AA, 100% bonus on CO/US for CO/LH, 125% on DL for AF with US carriers.
I like my free domestic upgrades and want to keep them coming. I would go CO or AA for that alone.
AA prices are about the same and you can do a Gold Challenge before the flight and get to Gold (exit rows) for the return and even Plat by the time you return if you avoid the cheapest 3 classes. That will get you 100% bonus miles for almost 2 years and free lounge for any intl flights on OW as well as better service locally.
I have been on AI (not in past 4 years after MANY terrible experiences).
I now go on AA and upgrade with a VIP. economy plus cost, C value. Lastly I get 30k RDMs and 15k elite miles.
100% bonus on AA, 100% bonus on CO/US for CO/LH, 125% on DL for AF with US carriers.
I like my free domestic upgrades and want to keep them coming. I would go CO or AA for that alone.
AA prices are about the same and you can do a Gold Challenge before the flight and get to Gold (exit rows) for the return and even Plat by the time you return if you avoid the cheapest 3 classes. That will get you 100% bonus miles for almost 2 years and free lounge for any intl flights on OW as well as better service locally.
#26
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: India
Programs: Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Trident Plat, DL Diamond, AI Maharajah
Posts: 29,682
Never. The flights can get cancelled if some minister has a medical issue and his whole retinue has to go abroad with him.
I have been on AI (not in past 4 years after MANY terrible experiences).
I now go on AA and upgrade with a VIP. economy plus cost, C value. Lastly I get 30k RDMs and 15k elite miles.
100% bonus on AA, 100% bonus on CO/US for CO/LH, 125% on DL for AF with US carriers.
I like my free domestic upgrades and want to keep them coming. I would go CO or AA for that alone.
AA prices are about the same and you can do a Gold Challenge before the flight and get to Gold (exit rows) for the return and even Plat by the time you return if you avoid the cheapest 3 classes. That will get you 100% bonus miles for almost 2 years and free lounge for any intl flights on OW as well as better service locally.
I have been on AI (not in past 4 years after MANY terrible experiences).
I now go on AA and upgrade with a VIP. economy plus cost, C value. Lastly I get 30k RDMs and 15k elite miles.
100% bonus on AA, 100% bonus on CO/US for CO/LH, 125% on DL for AF with US carriers.
I like my free domestic upgrades and want to keep them coming. I would go CO or AA for that alone.
AA prices are about the same and you can do a Gold Challenge before the flight and get to Gold (exit rows) for the return and even Plat by the time you return if you avoid the cheapest 3 classes. That will get you 100% bonus miles for almost 2 years and free lounge for any intl flights on OW as well as better service locally.
#27
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PDX
Programs: Don't think it matters...
Posts: 5,240
just in case you didn't know, ai is now being operated by the private sector & not the government since the last couple of years....so your 4 year old experience is not reflective of the new ai....all the people who complain about ai are people who have not traveled with them for many years....
#28
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 51
I'll tell you - trying to deal with Air India's web site and customer support does not leave me brimming with confidence here!
The site is a mess.
No way to check fare rules until AFTER you buy the ticket.
I was on the phone with customer service for HOURS today to try to sort this out. They insist on a booking reference before giving me the rules.
I insist on the rules before making a booking!
The "fare rules" page comes up showing "page 1/3" only so there are 2 pages of regulations and fees you don't know about and customer service refuses to tell me.
Also, there is no way to assess seat availability prior to booking. So after all the ordeal of purchase I could end up with a middle seat at the back of the plane!
That might prove a deal breaker for me.
And!
Being from the US, I can't pay online with American Express.
All of this plus the fact that it took OVER TWO HOURS for someone to pick up the phone at customer service today.
And I STILL don't know the fare rules.
The site is a mess.
No way to check fare rules until AFTER you buy the ticket.
I was on the phone with customer service for HOURS today to try to sort this out. They insist on a booking reference before giving me the rules.
I insist on the rules before making a booking!
The "fare rules" page comes up showing "page 1/3" only so there are 2 pages of regulations and fees you don't know about and customer service refuses to tell me.
Also, there is no way to assess seat availability prior to booking. So after all the ordeal of purchase I could end up with a middle seat at the back of the plane!
That might prove a deal breaker for me.
And!
Being from the US, I can't pay online with American Express.
All of this plus the fact that it took OVER TWO HOURS for someone to pick up the phone at customer service today.
And I STILL don't know the fare rules.
#29
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NYC / Chelsea
Programs: Delta, Avios, Chase
Posts: 1,099
I'll tell you - trying to deal with Air India's web site and customer support does not leave me brimming with confidence here!
The site is a mess.
No way to check fare rules until AFTER you buy the ticket.
I was on the phone with customer service for HOURS today to try to sort this out. They insist on a booking reference before giving me the rules.
I insist on the rules before making a booking!
The "fare rules" page comes up showing "page 1/3" only so there are 2 pages of regulations and fees you don't know about and customer service refuses to tell me.
Also, there is no way to assess seat availability prior to booking. So after all the ordeal of purchase I could end up with a middle seat at the back of the plane!
That might prove a deal breaker for me.
And!
Being from the US, I can't pay online with American Express.
All of this plus the fact that it took OVER TWO HOURS for someone to pick up the phone at customer service today.
And I STILL don't know the fare rules.
The site is a mess.
No way to check fare rules until AFTER you buy the ticket.
I was on the phone with customer service for HOURS today to try to sort this out. They insist on a booking reference before giving me the rules.
I insist on the rules before making a booking!
The "fare rules" page comes up showing "page 1/3" only so there are 2 pages of regulations and fees you don't know about and customer service refuses to tell me.
Also, there is no way to assess seat availability prior to booking. So after all the ordeal of purchase I could end up with a middle seat at the back of the plane!
That might prove a deal breaker for me.
And!
Being from the US, I can't pay online with American Express.
All of this plus the fact that it took OVER TWO HOURS for someone to pick up the phone at customer service today.
And I STILL don't know the fare rules.