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allthe2s Jul 6, 2010 3:08 pm

First 9w F
 
Hi all

2 questions in one post (I hope that is allowed!)

1) I'm amazed.. just got my ticket for LHR-BOM-LHR this/next weekend. This is the first time I've ever had F class! :p Any tips on this?

2) Can I earn United frequent flyer miles on 9W or is there a way of transfering JP miles to mileage plus? (isn't that 3 questions or even 4 now!). Probably not but thought I might ask.

Thanks everyone
2222

Keyser Jul 7, 2010 2:49 am


Originally Posted by allthe2s (Post 14253165)
1) I'm amazed.. just got my ticket for LHR-BOM-LHR this/next weekend. This is the first time I've ever had F class! :p Any tips on this?

what kind of tips are you looking for????jet has an amazing first class....one of the best i have ever been on....they treat you like royalty....


Originally Posted by allthe2s (Post 14253165)
2) Can I earn United frequent flyer miles on 9W or is there a way of transfering JP miles to mileage plus? (isn't that 3 questions or even 4 now!). Probably not but thought I might ask.

yes you can....just make sure you quote your united frequent flyer number & not your jp number when you are checking in....

allthe2s Jul 7, 2010 11:29 am

Hi Saad

Thanks for the reply.

I'm interested in any pre flight tips. For example is there a F class lounge at LHR and BOM? Normally on the return I find a hotel close to the airport for one last meal. Is this necessary for F?

Thanks for the news on M+. Do you know if I can transfer my existing JP miles to M+?

2222

dgxoxo Jul 7, 2010 12:32 pm

Out of curiosity i went to the 9W website and found this link. HTH http://www.jetairways.com/EN/US/Prod...ngeLondon.aspx

Keyser Jul 7, 2010 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by allthe2s (Post 14258548)
I'm interested in any pre flight tips. For example is there a F class lounge at LHR and BOM? Normally on the return I find a hotel close to the airport for one last meal. Is this necessary for F?

look here for info on jet lounges....

both the lounges in london & mumbai are pretty nice but i don't think you can substitute the offerings there for a real meal....the food served on jet first class is very good with lots of choices....you may want to skip the meal before boarding & just eat on the flight....


Originally Posted by allthe2s (Post 14258548)
Thanks for the news on M+. Do you know if I can transfer my existing JP miles to M+?

i don't think you can transfer miles....

allthe2s Jul 7, 2010 3:15 pm

Many thanks

d3vski Jul 8, 2010 1:51 pm


Originally Posted by allthe2s (Post 14253165)
Hi all

2 questions in one post (I hope that is allowed!)

1) I'm amazed.. just got my ticket for LHR-BOM-LHR this/next weekend. This is the first time I've ever had F class! :p Any tips on this?

2) Can I earn United frequent flyer miles on 9W or is there a way of transfering JP miles to mileage plus? (isn't that 3 questions or even 4 now!). Probably not but thought I might ask.

Thanks everyone
2222

Well done for making the right choice. ^

Jet F is one of the best. Last time i travelled i was the only pax in the F cabin and from the ground to aircraft and arrivals stages, they treated me royally. They held the J class pax while i deboarded onto my own private bus (one of the few times ive had stairs and not a jetbridge). Got some funny looks but who cares, i was F, they were J.

Im not too sure about the lounges nowadays but in BOM its nothing to shout out about and the London Lounge for Skyteam will not be as impressive as the Etihad Lounge that they used to use at LHR.

But in flight is where you will be impressed. Enjoy and we fully expect a Trip Report with plenty of photos......:D

When are you returning to LHR as my wife is flying Jet F this month.

allthe2s Jul 8, 2010 3:47 pm

All
I only wish I could take the credit for chosing F! I requested 9w J but seem to have been bumped by work to F. What a great place to work! :)

I'm returning on 17th.

The london lounge page states "The Wellness centre is available for complimentary use by Jet Airways passengers". What is that about?

Trip report to follow...

Trip report part 1.
Have decided to get the taxi to come 1 hour earlier to sample the lounge!


2222

Keyser Jul 9, 2010 1:40 am


Originally Posted by allthe2s (Post 14266880)
I requested 9w J but seem to have been bumped by work to F. What a great place to work! :)

^^

onlysuites Jul 9, 2010 3:21 am

Slightly OT but has anyone noticed there are no redemption seats in Jet F from DEL all of next year. Not even one date.

Looking at Sabre shows F is for sale everyday instead of the 3-4 times a week now. Are they changing over to the 77W daily? If so why do you think they haven't released any seats yet?

Keyser Jul 9, 2010 4:22 am


Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 14269397)
Slightly OT but has anyone noticed there are no redemption seats in Jet F from DEL all of next year. Not even one date.

Looking at Sabre shows F is for sale everyday instead of the 3-4 times a week now. Are they changing over to the 77W daily? If so why do you think they haven't released any seats yet?

that is quite interesting....let me see if i can find out what's going on....

allthe2s Jul 9, 2010 3:51 pm

Trip report part 2
Tried to check in online but can't because I want to use UA M+ FF miles. Need to check in at LHR.

onlysuites Jul 12, 2010 3:39 am


Originally Posted by allthe2s (Post 14272983)
Trip report part 2
Tried to check in online but can't because I want to use UA M+ FF miles. Need to check in at LHR.

Let us know how it went.

Keyser Jul 12, 2010 4:23 am


Originally Posted by allthe2s (Post 14266880)
Trip report part 1.
Have decided to get the taxi to come 1 hour earlier to sample the lounge!


Originally Posted by allthe2s (Post 14272983)
Trip report part 2
Tried to check in online but can't because I want to use UA M+ FF miles. Need to check in at LHR.

pretty short trip reports....:D

onlysuites Jul 12, 2010 4:28 am


Originally Posted by saad (Post 14283895)
pretty short trip reports....:D

lol :D

allthe2s Jul 17, 2010 5:16 am

To those of you interested... Hi and here is my trip report. Sorry it wasn’t earlier but firstly my internet access stopped working for 4 days after my first logon due to a SIM update from Vodafone (I didn’t know you could update a SIM!) and then I went down with, and still have, the dreaded Delhi belly. Anyhow here goes....

As I mentioned earlier I decided to get the car an hour earlier to experience the lounge. After queuing behind some J guys in the F class lane I got the red carpet at check. I used my United m+ frequent flyer scheme which wasn’t a problem though the miles have still to appear. Hopefully they will soon. I didn’t get a fast track ticket for passport control so instead I decided to try my luck and fortunately my F ticket got me through. After a thorough security check I got through pretty quickly. On checking into the lounge I was told there would be a buggy to get me to the gate so things were looking good. However I have to say I was rather disappointed by the lounge which was OK but not special. Maybe I was hoping for something more akin to Emirates. Anyhow half way through my stay there I was told they were closing upstairs which was where I was and had to move downstairs. However the view of the aircraft coming into land was good.

As I was travelling F I decided to check out the Rolexs. I chose mine and now the only problem is the saving. I reckon it will take me years!!
The buggy to the gate was fun and I was whisked through and onto the plane. I really did enjoy the moment of “turning left”.

With just 8 booths in First service was excellent. Champagne etc. The thing that struck me on the way out was that no one fussed about checking bags were under the footstool. Maybe they did check but it wasn’t obvious to me like it is if you’ve turned right. Anyhow suddenly from being only 4 of us they upgraded 4 more and then there were 8. I have to say I didn’t hand around for the meal and crashed out on the excellent flat beds with the doors shut. BOM was too soon and I discovered I missed breakfast as I woke as we were coming in to land. So a quick change out of the Jet pyjamas and I was ready to face India.

On leaving the aircraft those of who had paid ( or had paid for us  )F were met at the plane door by very helpful employees who helped us through the airport at every stage. They opened up a new lane at passport control and as my bags was off first within minutes I was outside looking for my driver.

Well I’m hoping I’m not going on too much so here’s the return...
3 hours before departure I got a text from Jet asking me to call when 5 mins from the airport. I did so and a porter was then expecting me on arrival. Again I got whisked through to check in and this is when F really started to make a difference. Jet realised it was my birthday and I was presented with chocolates! My boarding card was pre printed although it had my 9W FF scheme on. I hope they made the change to United. Also my departure card was mostly filled in and then suddenly my feet didn’t touch the floor. I got the “who is he stares” from everyone as I got to the front of every queue. This was great because I realised this is where you need the service... at the return end of the trip. I know LHR quite well but not BOM so I was very grateful for the assistance there. I was surprised that there is an F class lounge at BOM and I spent the whole time talking to the only other F guy. I think he probably paid for his own ticket because he owned the company!

On board, after an accompanied walk to the gate the crew were fantastic. Not great but fantastic! I thought about trying the food but, aside from some fruit, my stomach simply wasn’t having it. This time the J’s weren’t upgraded to F and my backpack got it’s own F class seat!! I had the bed made for (and that makes a real difference) watched a movie and slept till breakfast.

At LHR I got a fast track card for immigration which I didn’t use as UK entry was quicker. As I’ve read elsewhere the J’s where held back so the F’s could leave first. My bag was second one off this time and then I was home.

So in summary thank you Jet! I think the F difference is really privacy. You have a cubicle you can close off to the outside world and 3 loos between 8 of you. This was probably an experience I’ll never get again and later this week it’s back to normal with BA cattle class LHR-LIS!! However at least I can say I’ve sat in 1A long haul! Thank you kind employer too!

PS I have photos.. I just don't know how to load them. Any ideas?

snod08 Jul 17, 2010 5:42 am

Thanks for this nice report. Sorry you got the Delhi Belly.

Check the top of the trip reports forum. You will see the following thread on how to add photos:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...s-reports.html

Keyser Jul 17, 2010 5:46 am

nice report allthe2s....the delhi belly bit sucks....hope you feel better soon....

you can create an album for the photos....just look for the 'pictures & albums' link under networking on your 'my flyertalk' page....

aniruddh77 Jul 18, 2010 9:50 pm

Nice one, allthe2s ! Glad you liked the experience, and hope the belly gets better soon !

Keyser Jul 19, 2010 12:44 am

just got back from london earlier this week (outgoing via jet & incoming via kingfisher) & probably need to head back there again later this week....i'm booked in première at the moment but my office has asked the client to book me in first....either one is fine with me but there is no doubt which one i would prefer....:D

onlysuites Jul 20, 2010 6:28 am

Came in a few days back via Jet F. Great product! ^^

Keyser Jul 20, 2010 8:16 am


Originally Posted by saad (Post 14322947)
just got back from london earlier this week (outgoing via jet & incoming via kingfisher) & probably need to head back there again later this week....i'm booked in première at the moment but my office has asked the client to book me in first....either one is fine with me but there is no doubt which one i would prefer....:D

just an update....traveling in f later this week....life is good....:D

d3vski Jul 20, 2010 12:44 pm

Another thumbs up for Jet F........wife is booked to fly bom-lhr next week.

galaticos Jul 26, 2010 6:17 pm

flew 9W F for the first time in Feb this year...all 4 subsequent trips from LHR-BOM have been in 9W F....atleast on the Europe - India route...i havent seen any better product than this...royalty to the core...i guess only EK/SQ can be better...these legacy US carrier exec's need to be sent on analysis trips on 9W/SQ etc so they can see why we complain to pay F for AA/UA on US-LHR...
btw - cant wait to try the KingFisher experience from LHR once they come into OW...

Yaatri Jul 26, 2010 11:12 pm


Originally Posted by saad (Post 14315051)
nice report allthe2s....the delhi belly bit sucks....hope you feel better soon....

you can create an album for the photos....just look for the 'pictures & albums' link under networking on your 'my flyertalk' page....

To be fair, it's Bombay belly. To make matters worse, it doesn't even rhyme. :D

Keyser Jul 27, 2010 1:49 am


Originally Posted by galaticos (Post 14369892)
flew 9W F for the first time in Feb this year...all 4 subsequent trips from LHR-BOM have been in 9W F....atleast on the Europe - India route...i havent seen any better product than this...royalty to the core...i guess only EK/SQ can be better...these legacy US carrier exec's need to be sent on analysis trips on 9W/SQ etc so they can see why we complain to pay F for AA/UA on US-LHR...
btw - cant wait to try the KingFisher experience from LHR once they come into OW...

kingfisher first is nowhere close to jet first....jet wins hands down....

Keyser Jul 27, 2010 1:51 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 14371204)
To be fair, it's Bombay belly. To make matters worse, it doesn't even rhyme. :D

:D

d3vski Jul 27, 2010 2:47 am


Originally Posted by saad (Post 14371661)
kingfisher first is nowhere close to jet first....jet wins hands down....

To be fair, Kingfisher First is a business class product and a very good product compared to many European/US carriers.

A proper comparison would be Kingfisher First vs Jet Premiere which i would say are about even. Jet is better is your a lone traveller and Kingfisher First better if a couple.

Jet F is a class above both and a true First Class product.

Keyser Jul 27, 2010 2:58 am


Originally Posted by d3vski (Post 14371802)
To be fair, Kingfisher First is a business class product and a very good product compared to many European/US carriers.

A proper comparison would be Kingfisher First vs Jet Premiere which i would say are about even. Jet is better is your a lone traveller and Kingfisher First better if a couple.

Jet F is a class above both and a true First Class product.

kingfisher first is very nice but i prefer jet première....

SuperFlyBoy Jul 27, 2010 5:39 am


Originally Posted by saad (Post 14371819)
kingfisher first is very nice but i prefer jet première....

+1.

galaticos Jul 27, 2010 7:19 am

i dont know mate...i dont like the Premier herringbone config or whatever it is called...granted - i've never travelled that but tried that on cathay a year back BOM-DXB and even though it was only 3+ hrs flight...hated it...switched the return to 9W J on the 737 and enjoyed it much more....
thanks for the feedback on IT F....will give it a go sometime...i like the IT domestic product...

SuperFlyBoy Jul 27, 2010 7:25 am


Originally Posted by galaticos (Post 14372593)
i dont know mate...i dont like the Premier herringbone config or whatever it is called...granted - i've never travelled that but tried that on cathay a year back BOM-DXB and even though it was only 3+ hrs flight...hated it...switched the return to 9W J on the 737 and enjoyed it much more....
thanks for the feedback on IT F....will give it a go sometime...i like the IT domestic product...

CX herringbone is *much* narrower from what I can see - Jet's is fine for me and my family - just my 2 cents! :p

MANCHESTER Jul 27, 2010 8:52 am

Have flown 9W F at last
 
Well I finally managed to squeeze my trip to India in last week, flying F both ways (LHR-BOM & DEL-LHR). I guess I picked quiet days as I had the whole cabin to myself both ways!

With regards the hard product, it's right up there with the best of them. A very comfortable seat that turns into a good size bed as well. Good (but not great) selection on the IFE, but the quality of the headphones & the screen were very good.

The food I found to be a let down. One the way out all choices were Indian cuisine. Whilst I appreciate it's an Indian airline, the LHR - India route would suggest there will be a few westerners on board & I think BA have got it right on the route, offering either. The Indian meal that I did have was pretty good, but too spicy for me. Again, whilst this may be perfect for your average Indian who is used to it, I think it made it toughh to have a good meal unless you enjoyed spicy food.

On the return there were a mixture of western & Indian meals. Having been on the road for a week, the idea of some simple western style food was appealing, but the fish I ordered was pretty horrible. Infact the only food that tasted OK was the canapes, the ice cream & the pop corn! Now I do admit I am a fussy eater, so perhps it was just me, but stil.....

The wine list was top quality, as was the coffee served on board. I managed a bottle of Dom P on the way out & few glasses of a good Margaux on the return.

What makes the Jet experience stand out for me is the airport staff. I loved getting whisked through security at both ends, having a chap to hold my bag etc & the real time saver was on the return to LHR where a buggy met me off the plane and got me to the front of passport control whilst the rest were still walking from the plane!!

All things considered, a great experience & next time will take a few sandwiches on board with me!

d3vski Jul 27, 2010 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by MANCHESTER (Post 14373103)
......
The food I found to be a let down. One the way out all choices were Indian cuisine. Whilst I appreciate it's an Indian airline, the LHR - India route would suggest there will be a few westerners on board & I think BA have got it right on the route, offering either. The Indian meal that I did have was pretty good, but too spicy for me. Again, whilst this may be perfect for your average Indian who is used to it, I think it made it toughh to have a good meal unless you enjoyed spicy food.

On the return there were a mixture of western & Indian meals. Having been on the road for a week, the idea of some simple western style food was appealing, but the fish I ordered was pretty horrible. Infact the only food that tasted OK was the canapes, the ice cream & the pop corn! Now I do admit I am a fussy eater, so perhps it was just me, but stil.....

The wine list was top quality, as was the coffee served on board. I managed a bottle of Dom P on the way out & few glasses of a good Margaux on the return.
.....

Unfortunately, Indian airlines tend to be very weak on the western options. Their bread and butter clientèle is of Indian origin and they tend to favour the Indian options very much similar to the choices on their IFE which will be skewed heavily in favour of Bollywood.

ex-BOM, i tend to find that the Asian Vegeterian option is usually the best but then again i am of Indian origin and i can eat curries for breakfast!

Speaking of champagne, the Jet website is now mentioning that Krug is now served in First Class (it disappeared a while ago). Anyone able to confirm?

onlysuites Jul 27, 2010 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by d3vski (Post 14374822)
Speaking of champagne, the Jet website is now mentioning that Krug is now served in First Class (it disappeared a while ago). Anyone able to confirm?

Flew it last week and they were only serving Dom

Keyser Jul 28, 2010 1:07 am


Originally Posted by d3vski (Post 14374822)
Speaking of champagne, the Jet website is now mentioning that Krug is now served in First Class (it disappeared a while ago). Anyone able to confirm?

i was flying jet f a few days back....since i don't drink i never bothered to check....will be flying in f again next month....can confirm then....or hopefully someone before me can do so....

MANCHESTER Jul 28, 2010 2:54 am


Originally Posted by saad (Post 14377942)
i was flying jet f a few days back....since i don't drink i never bothered to check....will be flying in f again next month....can comfirm then....or hopefully someone before me can do so....

It was Dom only on both my flights, hardly a chore compared to the cr*p BA serve in F at present!

livefromtuscany Jul 30, 2010 8:44 am


Originally Posted by d3vski (Post 14374822)
Speaking of champagne, the Jet website is now mentioning that Krug is now served in First Class (it disappeared a while ago). Anyone able to confirm?

btw, the website also mentions that Dom Perignon is also served in Prémiere? This would be very unusual for a business class product. Can anyone confirm that this is true?

SuperFlyBoy Jul 30, 2010 8:46 am


Originally Posted by vienna-resident (Post 14392173)
btw, the website also mentions that Dom Perignon is also served in Prémiere? This would be very unusual for a business class product. Can anyone confirm that this is true?

This is very true and the beauty of 9w biz...

However, it is off and on, depending on the economy - or maybe the direction of the wind! :p

See this thread where it is discussed: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/airli...m-back-9w.html

(Anyway, I prefer Dom up in the air! ^ )

onlysuites Jul 30, 2010 9:08 am


Originally Posted by vienna-resident (Post 14392173)
btw, the website also mentions that Dom Perignon is also served in Prémiere? This would be very unusual for a business class product. Can anyone confirm that this is true?

Two thumbs up for DOM ^^

Yep they are still serving it now days.


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