Chapter 11 confirmed for Independence
Nov 8, 2005, 4:55 pm
#46
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 519
Originally Posted by whlinder
DH's A319 engines don't match the ones on F9's Airbii. Maybe Ted will buy them. RAR!
Nov 8, 2005, 5:24 pm
#47
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 12
Originally Posted by DENPremEx
^ I admire your attitude. The world would be a better place if more people had that outlook. The airline industry, as a whole, would be in a lot better shape if more people had your outlook. I apologize if my initial post seemed aggressive, I am so used to airline emplyees fighting to hold on to salaries/benefits/work rules that, in some cases, are causing the problems to begin with.
Nov 8, 2005, 6:14 pm
#48
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Posts: 739
Originally Posted by FWAAA
For some unexplained reason, Neeleman ordered 100 EMB-190s which seat about 100 people - the first one just went into service (today?). Apparently he thinks he can buck the conventional wisdom that says a low-cost carrier should stick to a single fleet type to minimize complexity and expense. Then again, he sold Morris Air to WN for a pile of money, so maybe he knows what he is doing. 
Of course the second fleet type will increase costs, but it strikes me that B6 will open up markets that it couldn't otherwise serve.
Nov 8, 2005, 7:32 pm
#49
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Washington DC
Posts: 243
Originally Posted by haddon90
that is a lot of gate slots being given up when DH goes under. personally, i would like to see UA take over A and get rid of the G concourse. could you see southwest coming into IAD? i mean, that's more than half the gates at the B concourse that would be freed up. interesting for sure.
Certainly a FlyI employee can vouch for this....but I am pretty certain that the A gates/ ramp would only be good for another carrier using 50 seat jets or something smaller. You might be able to fit a few Emb-170's in there, but the 190 seems too big, unless you redesigned the entire thing and cut the number of gates available by a lot.
Remember, the A gates are commuter gates, where you walk on the ramp and climb stairs into the airplane, not full fledged ones with jetways.
I am sure UAL would be interested but anyone else with a large express operation is not going to come into IAD and set up shop using those gates.
In my opinion.
DC
Nov 8, 2005, 7:53 pm
#50
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 5,210
I have never flown DH, but I just want to wish DH Emplyee and colleagues well in the future. I Hope everything turns out well for you guys.
Nov 8, 2005, 8:30 pm
#51
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: SFO
Programs: United 1K
Posts: 2,264
I second those comments about DH Employee.
Nov 9, 2005, 6:29 am
#52
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 5
Service with a smile
Monday I flew MCO -> IAD; from the personnel at the counter to the flight crew, I was ALWAYS meant with a smile. We left on time and arrived 10 mins early... AND my checked baggage arrived at the carosel before I did.... I can't even think of a complaint, or even an improvement... I would really hate to see them go under....
Nov 9, 2005, 8:20 am
#53
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Originally Posted by greenery
How is Independence Air going to be able to hold on to their staff when it appears likely that in 90 days (or less) they will all be out of work. Without much of a future at their current employer, I would expect many employees will quit, call in sick, stop trying, or delay or cancel flights without much fear.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Nov 9, 2005, 10:46 am
#54
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: IAD
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Originally Posted by UALPilotDC
Certainly a FlyI employee can vouch for this....but I am pretty certain that the A gates/ ramp would only be good for another carrier using 50 seat jets or something smaller. You might be able to fit a few Emb-170's in there, but the 190 seems too big, unless you redesigned the entire thing and cut the number of gates available by a lot.
Remember, the A gates are commuter gates, where you walk on the ramp and climb stairs into the airplane, not full fledged ones with jetways.
I am sure UAL would be interested but anyone else with a large express operation is not going to come into IAD and set up shop using those gates.
In my opinion.
DC
Remember, the A gates are commuter gates, where you walk on the ramp and climb stairs into the airplane, not full fledged ones with jetways.
I am sure UAL would be interested but anyone else with a large express operation is not going to come into IAD and set up shop using those gates.
In my opinion.
DC
Yeah yer right about the A gates. Of the 36 gate current layout, I think you might still have 24 usable gates with E190's. You'd have to stagger the gates and only get two spots per "gate" as opposed to the current three.
Nov 9, 2005, 1:48 pm
#55
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,658
Originally Posted by FWAAA
I'd make other plans, even for the December flights. But maybe mid doesn't mind the very real possibility of trying to fly standby during December if FlyI shuts down. Or the expense of buying full Y walkup fares for those flights. Me - I'd rather plan now and still get some advance purchase fares on an airline like WN, that is guaranteed to still be flying, as opposed to one that hopes to still be flying. 
I'd also say don't count on any investors entering the picture; I'm sure FlyI's been trolling for them for months, and if the company's come up empty to this point, it's even more unlikely that anyone will show up in Ch. 11.
Nov 9, 2005, 3:29 pm
#56
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fairfield County, CT
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Originally Posted by SealBeach
Right. I would not expect to go anywhere on FlyI after January 6 -- that's 60 days from November 7 when the auction is supposed to end. That would be the date I'd bet on for a shutdown.
I'd also say don't count on any investors entering the picture; I'm sure FlyI's been trolling for them for months, and if the company's come up empty to this point, it's even more unlikely that anyone will show up in Ch. 11.
I'd also say don't count on any investors entering the picture; I'm sure FlyI's been trolling for them for months, and if the company's come up empty to this point, it's even more unlikely that anyone will show up in Ch. 11.
At any rate, a walkup fare to BOS from IAD won't be ridiculous. Plenty of capacity on that route and I'm willing to bet that I'll get plenty of advance warning that DH won't fly my flights in Jan. Since I only have a couple, the pain won't be TOO bad if it comes to that.
Nov 9, 2005, 6:35 pm
#57
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Originally Posted by mid
At any rate, a walkup fare to BOS from IAD won't be ridiculous.
Nov 9, 2005, 8:19 pm
#58
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,658
Originally Posted by MileageAddict
Presently, the walk up fare BOS-IAD is $199.00 one way
Nov 9, 2005, 8:28 pm
#59
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,658
Originally Posted by mid
I'm willing to bet that I'll get plenty of advance warning that DH won't fly my flights in Jan.
Nov 9, 2005, 8:33 pm
#60
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,658
Originally Posted by spampurse
While I am sure that most DH employees have a "plan B" in the back of their mind, most of us that are left really enjoy who we work for and what we do.