TSA Pre Check
Mar 9, 2023, 10:28 pm
#3
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Yikes - looks like based on the TSA list they do not participate. https://www.tsa.gov/precheck/participating-airlines
Drat - I did not know this and will be traveling on them in a few weeks. Well at least I know it now. Thanks for the heads up.
Mar 10, 2023, 5:18 am
#5
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Just flew to Lisbon via Madrid from Miami. What a mess! Couldn’t check in online. No one at the ticket counter until 1hr 55 minutes before departure. Then. The long, long TSA lines without TSA Pre check. Even though Biz class, won’t fly Iberia again unless they participate in Pre check.
Mar 11, 2023, 6:36 am
#6
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Isn't Global Entry (which is available to citizens of select non-US nationalities) and TSA Pre Check some sort of "package"? However, Global Entry is only available to citizens of two EU countries, Germany and Netherlands. So neither Spain nor Ireland (someone mentioned Aer Lingus) are part of that list, which means that the bulk of their passengers don't qualify for Global Entry.
As far as I know, the issue with some of the 25 EU countries not part of Global Entry is privacy concerns regarding the type of personal info on their citizens that US requires to be shared.
Edit: But I do notice that quite a lot of airlines in the "other 25" EU countries are in fact on the list of TSA Pre Check participants.
As far as I know, the issue with some of the 25 EU countries not part of Global Entry is privacy concerns regarding the type of personal info on their citizens that US requires to be shared.
Edit: But I do notice that quite a lot of airlines in the "other 25" EU countries are in fact on the list of TSA Pre Check participants.
Last edited by Tomas E; Mar 11, 2023 at 6:53 am Reason: Added relevant info
Mar 12, 2023, 5:26 am
#7
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Isn't Global Entry (which is available to citizens of select non-US nationalities) and TSA Pre Check some sort of "package"? However, Global Entry is only available to citizens of two EU countries, Germany and Netherlands. So neither Spain nor Ireland (someone mentioned Aer Lingus) are part of that list, which means that the bulk of their passengers don't qualify for Global Entry.
As far as I know, the issue with some of the 25 EU countries not part of Global Entry is privacy concerns regarding the type of personal info on their citizens that US requires to be shared.
Edit: But I do notice that quite a lot of airlines in the "other 25" EU countries are in fact on the list of TSA Pre Check participants.
As far as I know, the issue with some of the 25 EU countries not part of Global Entry is privacy concerns regarding the type of personal info on their citizens that US requires to be shared.
Edit: But I do notice that quite a lot of airlines in the "other 25" EU countries are in fact on the list of TSA Pre Check participants.
However...the airline you're flying has to participate in the program and there's some back-end IT stuff that needs to get done, and I'm sure some security audit. And there are US citizens, and citizens of those other countries (as well as UK which is eligible) that could have use of pre-check. Also lots of people with dual citizenship on US flights who could have access.
The point being it's almost certainly an "IB can't manage IT properly" issue.
Mar 12, 2023, 5:53 am
#8
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Yes if you get global entry, you get access to precheck.
However...the airline you're flying has to participate in the program and there's some back-end IT stuff that needs to get done, and I'm sure some security audit. And there are US citizens, and citizens of those other countries (as well as UK which is eligible) that could have use of pre-check. Also lots of people with dual citizenship on US flights who could have access.
The point being it's almost certainly an "IB can't manage IT properly" issue.
However...the airline you're flying has to participate in the program and there's some back-end IT stuff that needs to get done, and I'm sure some security audit. And there are US citizens, and citizens of those other countries (as well as UK which is eligible) that could have use of pre-check. Also lots of people with dual citizenship on US flights who could have access.
The point being it's almost certainly an "IB can't manage IT properly" issue.
I guess it is a bit of a business decision if an airline wants to accept this cost when only a minority of your passengers could potentially benefit. So my guess is that the cost vs. benefit rather than IT incompetence is the explanation. From a marketing point of view, this might be the wrong decision, though, if this makes a sufficient number of US passengers take their business elsewhere because IB fails to provide a service that is included with many or most other European legacy carriers.
Mar 24, 2023, 3:32 pm
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That said, some people desperate for PreCheck can book a fully refundable (or super cheap throwaway) ticket on a Pre-Check airline to get through security.
Mar 25, 2023, 3:36 am
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Apr 16, 2023, 6:21 pm
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Others who are more knowledgeable feel free to correct my errors!
Apr 19, 2023, 8:39 pm
#13
Join Date: Apr 2023
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Have you guys tried adding your Known Traveler ID on the Iberia app? I did it myself, but have not verified if works since my flight is not until June this year.
Directions: open app and select the profile icon (top right corner). Then click on My travel documents, then add document (at the bottom), then type of document. Select Known traveller ID and fill out the form.
Directions: open app and select the profile icon (top right corner). Then click on My travel documents, then add document (at the bottom), then type of document. Select Known traveller ID and fill out the form.
Apr 25, 2023, 8:48 am
#14
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TSA
Have you guys tried adding your Known Traveler ID on the Iberia app? I did it myself, but have not verified if works since my flight is not until June this year.
Directions: open app and select the profile icon (top right corner). Then click on My travel documents, then add document (at the bottom), then type of document. Select Known traveller ID and fill out the form.
Directions: open app and select the profile icon (top right corner). Then click on My travel documents, then add document (at the bottom), then type of document. Select Known traveller ID and fill out the form.
Apr 25, 2023, 1:02 pm
#15
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I believe you also need to have it in for Global Entry. At the very least it can prevent SSSS