Iberia Business Plus longhaul - definitive thread
#46
Join Date: Feb 2008
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I didn't find that there was that much privacy.. Even in sleep mode it's a little awkward. Not the end of the world though.
#47
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Madrid, Spain
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Lie-flat?
I took my first Business Plus TATL flight in a long while the other day. It was a pretty pleasant experience, the service, food and wine were good, but one thing that struck me was that the seat didn't truly lie-flat. It was nearly there but there was still a slight incline and the seat cushion certainly wasn't flat with the rest of the seat when fully reclined.
Reading Ronda magazine I noticed that the new A330 business class talked about a "totally horizontal (180º) bed" whereas the A340, it seemed to be deliberately less explicit. So, were the lie-flat updates that were made to the fleet a couple of years back not truly lie-flat or were my expectations a little too high perhaps? Flight was A340-200 between MAD and PTY and I was in row 1.
Reading Ronda magazine I noticed that the new A330 business class talked about a "totally horizontal (180º) bed" whereas the A340, it seemed to be deliberately less explicit. So, were the lie-flat updates that were made to the fleet a couple of years back not truly lie-flat or were my expectations a little too high perhaps? Flight was A340-200 between MAD and PTY and I was in row 1.
#48
Join Date: Feb 2013
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I took my first Business Plus TATL flight in a long while the other day. It was a pretty pleasant experience, the service, food and wine were good, but one thing that struck me was that the seat didn't truly lie-flat. It was nearly there but there was still a slight incline and the seat cushion certainly wasn't flat with the rest of the seat when fully reclined.
Reading Ronda magazine I noticed that the new A330 business class talked about a "totally horizontal (180º) bed" whereas the A340, it seemed to be deliberately less explicit. So, were the lie-flat updates that were made to the fleet a couple of years back not truly lie-flat or were my expectations a little too high perhaps? Flight was A340-200 between MAD and PTY and I was in row 1.
Reading Ronda magazine I noticed that the new A330 business class talked about a "totally horizontal (180º) bed" whereas the A340, it seemed to be deliberately less explicit. So, were the lie-flat updates that were made to the fleet a couple of years back not truly lie-flat or were my expectations a little too high perhaps? Flight was A340-200 between MAD and PTY and I was in row 1.
I feel they are almost 180 now. It was certainly not the case before.
Except for row 1 (recess in bulkhead) and row 6 (mini J cabin 343).
These were the only seats that could fully extend to a near horizontal position. The other rows lacked the space to do so, which was solved by the removal of an entire row a while back, (except for seats in row 7 mini J cabin).
Glad to hear that the service was good, it can be rather lackluster at times.
#50
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Amenity kit and pj's
If there is a amenity kit or pajamas in J on JFK-Mad flight, can you please describe? Also, is the lounge in JFK terminal 7 the BA lounge? Any other oneworld lounge available in t7? Thanks.
#51
Join Date: Dec 2006
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A few months ago there were no pajamas, I do not think that these have been introduced.
They hand over amenity kits with classic stuff.
Sorry do not know about the lounges in JFK.
#52
Join Date: Oct 2009
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#54
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
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I'm looking at options for flying SEA-MAD or SEA-SVQ early next year. Some of the options include IB longhaul, specifically ORD-MAD or JFK-MAD. How can I definitively tell whether a given route will have the new lie-flat beds? It would kill me to choose IB to save an hour or two of total trip time and then find out that I have a reclining seat, when I could have taken BA and had a flat bed.
#55
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If you are desperate finding out, check the seat map. If it's 2-2-2 then it will be the old seat (which I prefer). Another way is the aircraft code:
330 - all new J (A330-300)
342 - old J, only first cabin J (it's technically an A340-300, though)
343 - old J, two cabins J (also A340-300)
345 - new J (it's technically an A340-600, though)
346 - old J (also A340-600)
Enjoy your trip anyway!
#56
Join Date: May 2013
Location: MAD
Programs: IB+, BAEC
Posts: 3,106
I'm looking at options for flying SEA-MAD or SEA-SVQ early next year. Some of the options include IB longhaul, specifically ORD-MAD or JFK-MAD. How can I definitively tell whether a given route will have the new lie-flat beds? It would kill me to choose IB to save an hour or two of total trip time and then find out that I have a reclining seat, when I could have taken BA and had a flat bed.
#57
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: London
Programs: AA Executive Platinum
Posts: 779
SCL-MAD IB6380 27/Jul/15 A340-600
Hello everybody,
I need to get from Santiago to London next year in biz class. I'm only considering the long flights on BA or Iberia for this leg (it's a RTW trip, I would have tried biz class on the other airlines flying the route by this stage )
Is the Iberia aircraft operating this route, full, 180 degree, parallel to the floor horizontal flat?
The other alternative flight is AA to Miami then BA from Miami to Heathrow. Any suggestions?
I need to get from Santiago to London next year in biz class. I'm only considering the long flights on BA or Iberia for this leg (it's a RTW trip, I would have tried biz class on the other airlines flying the route by this stage )
Is the Iberia aircraft operating this route, full, 180 degree, parallel to the floor horizontal flat?
The other alternative flight is AA to Miami then BA from Miami to Heathrow. Any suggestions?
#58
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Hi again creampuff
I think there is a mixed bag operating still and swiss_global above explains how to work out what sort of aircraft is operating your flight. Plug in your dates and have a look.
I just flew IB J from BOG to MAD and most flights were designated as a 345 so I was fairly sure I would get the new seat.
I took lots of photos which I will post if I can decide where, food was poor out of BOG, I am hoping it will be better out of MAD on the return leg. You don't want to hear this but LAN is probably better on that route. More spacious cabin, better IFE and same slightly indifferent cabin staff.
I think there is a mixed bag operating still and swiss_global above explains how to work out what sort of aircraft is operating your flight. Plug in your dates and have a look.
I just flew IB J from BOG to MAD and most flights were designated as a 345 so I was fairly sure I would get the new seat.
I took lots of photos which I will post if I can decide where, food was poor out of BOG, I am hoping it will be better out of MAD on the return leg. You don't want to hear this but LAN is probably better on that route. More spacious cabin, better IFE and same slightly indifferent cabin staff.
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#60
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: London
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Hi again creampuff
I think there is a mixed bag operating still and swiss_global above explains how to work out what sort of aircraft is operating your flight. Plug in your dates and have a look.
I just flew IB J from BOG to MAD and most flights were designated as a 345 so I was fairly sure I would get the new seat.
I took lots of photos which I will post if I can decide where, food was poor out of BOG, I am hoping it will be better out of MAD on the return leg. You don't want to hear this but LAN is probably better on that route. More spacious cabin, better IFE and same slightly indifferent cabin staff.
I think there is a mixed bag operating still and swiss_global above explains how to work out what sort of aircraft is operating your flight. Plug in your dates and have a look.
I just flew IB J from BOG to MAD and most flights were designated as a 345 so I was fairly sure I would get the new seat.
I took lots of photos which I will post if I can decide where, food was poor out of BOG, I am hoping it will be better out of MAD on the return leg. You don't want to hear this but LAN is probably better on that route. More spacious cabin, better IFE and same slightly indifferent cabin staff.