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Rio Hotel & Casino Las Vegas REVIEW - MASTER THREAD (Destination+other brands)
An interesting development in LV - multiple full service properties co-locating, including a Hyatt Regency to start with.
Lots of possibilities for the (at least one other) brand. Thompson seem to be the brand of the moment in general... although I'm not sure how well it would get with a Hyatt Regency (more Grand Hyatt territory?). Hyatt Flags to Fly in Las VegasFollowing a multi-phase renovation led by Dreamscape Companies, the Rio Las Vegas will be repositioned to multiple Hyatt full-service offerings, starting with a Hyatt Regency hotelCHICAGO (March 18, 2021) – Hyatt Hotels Corporation (NYSE: H) today announced that a Hyatt affiliate has entered into franchise agreements with an affiliate of Dreamscape Companies LLC, which will lead the renovation of the Rio Las Vegas. The multi-phase project is expected to bring multiple Hyatt full-service offerings to Las Vegas, one of the most visited leisure, group, and convention markets in the world, in the renovated Rio hotel.“We are thrilled that Dreamscape will help us bring multiple Hyatt full-service brands to Las Vegas, starting with a Hyatt Regency hotel, which we believe will deliver on the Hyatt Regency brand promise of creating meaningful connections in modern spaces designed for sharing, socializing, and collaborating,” said Kimo Bertram, Hyatt’s vice president of real estate and development. “We know Las Vegas is an important destination for our guests, World of Hyatt members, and customers, and this project is a significant step for Hyatt as we continue to grow our brands in markets that matter most to our loyal travelers.” The more than 2,510-room Rio Las Vegas will be renovated and rebranded into multiple Hyatt full-service brand flags, and will undergo a redevelopment of the current public spaces, including gaming, retail, food and beverage, spa and fitness, and pool recreation deck. In addition, the Rio Las Vegas will undergo a renovation of one of the hotel’s existing towers, and upon completion, the tower is expected to become a 1,501-room Hyatt Regency hotel with standard guestrooms averaging 580 square feet. The remainder of the Rio’s guestrooms are expected to be branded or affiliated with one or more other Hyatt full-service brands after they are renovated. Beyond redefining the hotel experience for business travelers and leisure guests, the Hyatt Regency hotel and other Hyatt-affiliated hotels will welcome meetings and event business with more than 220,000 square feet of function space and state-of-the-art meeting facilities. “At Dreamscape, our goal is to acquire assets that drive long-term financial and cultural value, and we are very excited to team up with Hyatt on this project,” said Eric Birnbaum, Dreamscape’s founder and CEO. “The Rio Las Vegas is the perfect space to create the ultimate multipurpose venue in Las Vegas, and we are thrilled to work with the Hyatt team to revitalize the property.” The term “Hyatt” is used in this release for convenience to refer to Hyatt Hotels Corporation and/or one or more of its affiliates. For further information: |
Will this be the end of the Hyatt MGM relationship?
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Originally Posted by Troopers
(Post 33109759)
Will this be the end of the Hyatt MGM relationship?
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Originally Posted by Troopers
(Post 33109759)
Will this be the end of the Hyatt MGM relationship?
As a Globalist, assuming you don't have to pay resort fees at the Hyatt Regency (/whatever other property they add in) and get the other perks like free breakfast, suite upgrades, club access, then unless there's a big price differential it would make it difficult to justify staying at other properties. |
Originally Posted by Troopers
(Post 33109759)
Will this be the end of the Hyatt MGM relationship?
Originally Posted by lAzyTraveler
(Post 33109769)
Hope they continue having the relationship with Mlife....
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Originally Posted by myperks
(Post 33109789)
mgm mlife means no elite benefits or resort waiver or breakfast
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Originally Posted by myperks
(Post 33109789)
mgm mlife means no elite benefits or resort waiver or breakfast
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Each time I'm in Vegas I think, "Hey, the Rio looks interesting. I should wander over there and look around.", and yet, I've never wandered over there.
I'm not sure globalist benefits would motivate me to stay away from the strip. I don't even hop around from casino to casino very much, but I have some sort of psychological block with crossing 15. |
Originally Posted by HoustonConsultant
(Post 33110010)
Each time I'm in Vegas I think, "Hey, the Rio looks interesting. I should wander over there and look around.", and yet, I've never wandered over there.
I'm not sure globalist benefits would motivate me to stay away from the strip. I don't even hop around from casino to casino very much, but I have some sort of psychological block with crossing 15. David |
One does not wander to the Rio.
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Originally Posted by Troopers
(Post 33109867)
I would rather stay on strip at Bellgio/Aria under current MGM Mlife relationship then at the Rio Hyatt with elite benefits.
let’s just see if the rates are still in the $30s and $40s ;). |
Originally Posted by HoustonConsultant
(Post 33110010)
Each time I'm in Vegas I think, "Hey, the Rio looks interesting. I should wander over there and look around.", and yet, I've never wandered over there.
I'm not sure globalist benefits would motivate me to stay away from the strip. I don't even hop around from casino to casino very much, but I have some sort of psychological block with crossing 15. |
I wonder how much business the Mlife relationship brings to either Hyatt or MGM. That said, I wouldn't want it to end, it's been a nice way to earn a few extra Hyatt points.
Mlife doesn't have a redeemable points earning scheme for spend/hotel stays, so if they severed the relationship with Hyatt and didn't come up with a new plan, they would be at a disadvantage versus Caesars, which does earn reward points for spend. Hard to say how much customers would care about this. Globalist benefits in Vegas does sound tempting, but the location is crap unless you want to drive everywhere, so I don't see myself ever doing it. The cost of ubers or car rentals would eat up the resort fee savings pretty quickly, but the hassle is a bigger concern for me. A side trip off the strip? Sure. Staying off the strip? Not so much. I wonder if they plan to indefinitely keep the Caesars casino affiliation. |
If this hotel sets to Cat 3 or 4 (probably not cat 2 since those two Hyatt Places are cat 2), it might be a good deal for non-Globalists using points/free night award to avoid the resort fees. Perhaps even better for Explorists if there is a Regency/Grand club using the club access award, and status match to Mlife Gold to get free parking at Mlife hotels.
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Originally Posted by lAzyTraveler
(Post 33110119)
If this hotel sets to Cat 3 or 4 (probably not cat 2 since those two Hyatt Places are cat 2), it might be a good deal for non-Globalists using points/free night award to avoid the resort fees. Perhaps even better for Explorists if there is a Regency/Grand club using the club access award, and status match to Mlife Gold to get free parking at Mlife hotels.
I am wondering though what exactly this means. Does it mean they’re turning the Rio into several different Hyatt’s? That’s what it sounds like, which is quite strange. |
Originally Posted by Matt4200
(Post 33110185)
Does it mean they’re turning the Rio into several different Hyatt’s? That’s what it sounds like, which is quite strange.
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Originally Posted by Matt4200
(Post 33110185)
Does it mean they’re turning the Rio into several different Hyatt’s? That’s what it sounds like, which is quite strange.
I can't imagine a Hyatt Regency would draw me away from the Strip, but if they put a 5-star brand in as the second hotel I might be tempted. |
The Rio is a dump right now. I mean, it’s great to get a $19 room + tax and all, but the rooms I end up in for that $19, those rooms I get in the Masquerade Tower as a Caesars Diamond clearly haven’t been getting refurbished since the 1990’s- scratched furnishings, old plumbing, the look is really dated. The casino and pool are similar. I’m willing to put up with lot for a $19 room, so OK, but realize that’s what you’re getting, something that is very tired.
So if you want to go over and look at someplace that needed to be refurbished around 2005-2010, sure, go over. Otherwise I’d skip it until they fix the joint up. |
They just announced the deal. FTers have a few years before we actually see if they actually have a clue.
David |
Originally Posted by Troopers
(Post 33109867)
I would rather stay on strip at Bellgio/Aria under current MGM Mlife relationship then at the Rio Hyatt with elite benefits.
Originally Posted by Sykes
(Post 33110283)
I can't imagine a Hyatt Regency would draw me away from the Strip, but if they put a 5-star brand in as the second hotel I might be tempted.
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Originally Posted by gengar
(Post 33110459)
Yeah, for sure. And honestly even without the Mlife relationship.
I would assume they'll be doing a significant refurbishment of the property/grounds. |
Originally Posted by coleslaw
(Post 33110467)
Purely based on location, or the current state of the Rio?
I would assume they'll be doing a significant refurbishment of the property/grounds. |
Originally Posted by coleslaw
(Post 33110467)
Purely based on location, or the current state of the Rio?
I would assume they'll be doing a significant refurbishment of the property/grounds. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a8f021d173.jpg David |
Wow the Rio has a go-kart/auto-x track? Who knew. I hope they keep that.
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
(Post 33110390)
The Rio is a dump right now. I mean, it’s great to get a $19 room + tax and all, but the rooms I end up in for that $19, those rooms I get in the Masquerade Tower as a Caesars Diamond clearly haven’t been getting refurbished since the 1990’s- scratched furnishings, old plumbing, the look is really dated. The casino and pool are similar. I’m willing to put up with lot for a $19 room, so OK, but realize that’s what you’re getting, something that is very tired.
So if you want to go over and look at someplace that needed to be refurbished around 2005-2010, sure, go over. Otherwise I’d skip it until they fix the joint up. I know the owners of the Rio will feel that they have to try something, but if the failed experiment of the W / SLS shows anything, it's that chain brands are irrelevant unless you have a prime location on the Strip or are close to the convention centre... |
Originally Posted by Matt4200
(Post 33110185)
It’s never a good deal. For years it’s been fairly easy to get a good room with a base rate of $30 at the Rio (so about $60 with Resort Fees). So even at a Cat 2 it’s still a bad deal.
I am wondering though what exactly this means. Does it mean they’re turning the Rio into several different Hyatt’s? That’s what it sounds like, which is quite strange. |
I'm pretty sure Caesars only has a contract to run the property/casino until the end of this year or next. This is the nail in the coffin for Rio being a Caesars property.
Wonder if the new Rio/Hyatt will have a casino. EDIT: Just saw in the press release it says "gaming" so yes, there will be a casino. I'm guessing it will be Mlife. |
Originally Posted by myperks
(Post 33109789)
mgm mlife means no elite benefits or resort waiver or breakfast
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Originally Posted by Jerkstore
(Post 33110553)
Wow the Rio has a go-kart/auto-x track? Who knew. I hope they keep that.
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Originally Posted by HoustonConsultant
(Post 33110010)
Each time I'm in Vegas I think, "Hey, the Rio looks interesting. I should wander over there and look around.", and yet, I've never wandered over there.
I'm not sure globalist benefits would motivate me to stay away from the strip. I don't even hop around from casino to casino very much, but I have some sort of psychological block with crossing 15. |
Originally Posted by HoustonConsultant
(Post 33110010)
Each time I'm in Vegas I think, "Hey, the Rio looks interesting. I should wander over there and look around.", and yet, I've never wandered over there.
I'm not sure globalist benefits would motivate me to stay away from the strip. I don't even hop around from casino to casino very much, but I have some sort of psychological block with crossing 15.
Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
(Post 33110390)
The Rio is a dump right now. I mean, it’s great to get a $19 room + tax and all, but the rooms I end up in for that $19, those rooms I get in the Masquerade Tower as a Caesars Diamond clearly haven’t been getting refurbished since the 1990’s- scratched furnishings, old plumbing, the look is really dated. The casino and pool are similar. I’m willing to put up with lot for a $19 room, so OK, but realize that’s what you’re getting, something that is very tired.
So if you want to go over and look at someplace that needed to be refurbished around 2005-2010, sure, go over. Otherwise I’d skip it until they fix the joint up. |
Originally Posted by TravelFu
(Post 33110931)
Stayed at the Rio several years ago for a work convention. They have some seriously large rooms even in the lower price points like what my work booked everyone into. I've stayed at some other hotels on the strip since then and I can't honestly say I've been any more comfortable with the exception of the time I got upgraded to a huge suite at the Paris with a bathroom bigger than my first apartment. I'll probably go and stay at the Hyatt Rio or whatever they decide the name is for those benefits as long as they still have the free shuttle to the strip.
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Originally Posted by craigthemif
(Post 33110575)
I know the owners of the Rio will feel that they have to try something, but if the failed experiment of the W / SLS shows anything, it's that chain brands are irrelevant unless you have a prime location on the Strip or are close to the convention centre...
Here's an example of how the Rio could be marketed to companies and professional organizations looking for space:
Originally Posted by TravelFu
(Post 33110931)
Stayed at the Rio several years ago for a work convention. They have some seriously large rooms even in the lower price points like what my work booked everyone into. I've stayed at some other hotels on the strip since then and I can't honestly say I've been any more comfortable with the exception of the time I got upgraded to a huge suite at the Paris with a bathroom bigger than my first apartment. I'll probably go and stay at the Hyatt Rio or whatever they decide the name is for those benefits as long as they still have the free shuttle to the strip.
If the Hyatt National Sales Team is aggressive in promoting this new venture, they might be able to book several large groups annually. Many professional organizations will rotate their national meetings through high-profile locations. Being able to add Las Vegas into the mix while still dealing with Hyatt might be appealing. Or, this venture could be a disaster like the Sahara. The devil's in the details. |
Originally Posted by craigthemif
(Post 33110575)
Sounds like the Excalibur, but with free breakfast and suite upgrades. I'm in! :D
I know the owners of the Rio will feel that they have to try something, but if the failed experiment of the W / SLS shows anything, it's that chain brands are irrelevant unless you have a prime location on the Strip or are close to the convention centre...
Originally Posted by writerguyfl
(Post 33111080)
If the Hyatt National Sales Team is aggressive in promoting this new venture, they might be able to book several large groups annually. Many professional organizations will rotate their national meetings through high-profile locations. Being able to add Las Vegas into the mix while still dealing with Hyatt might be appealing.
Or, this venture could be a disaster like the Sahara. The devil's in the details. I'd hope the new ownership has a clue, and the partnership with Hyatt is... something? But the examples of SLS/Sahara + Palms don't exactly inspire confidence that you can just have a nice property with some good restaurants and decor and boom, you make a ton of cash. And there's going to be Virgin Las Vegas + Resorts World on the Hilton side soon... |
I hope the MGM x Hyatt relationship continues.
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Not a fan of this property unless a lot of renovations are done and they are able to bring in some interesting restaurants. I did like KJ for their dim sums though, probably the only good thing about this property right now. Well the other upside is being slightly closer to Chinatown too. It wouldn't be my #1 choice as I typically stay at Aria or Vdara but I would definitely consider it depending on how things go.
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Originally Posted by writerguyfl
(Post 33111080)
Smaller conventions that are based in a single hotel are big business. If the folks running this new venture pay to hire top notch salespeople and back that up with a great operations staff, they might do well.
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Originally Posted by Jimgotkp
(Post 33111403)
I thought the same thing too. If a lot of money is invested into the property and they make the property attractive as well, they can try to bring in a lot of convention business as the property has an events center. However, you have the new Caesars Forum Center behind Linq and Harrahs and the new Resorts World property opening this summer.
Originally Posted by writerguyfl
(Post 33111080)
Smaller conventions that are based in a single hotel are big business. If the folks running this new venture pay to hire top notch salespeople and back that up with a great operations staff, they might do well.
Conventions with a bunch of random people in close proximity? Vaccines or not, that's going to take many years to get back to normal, if it ever does... And there will be a lot of desperate hotels / event centres with space to fill... |
For 10 minutes once upon a time, the Palms became hot off strip. It was a miracle of sorts. It ended.
Rio was a dump when it opened. It's a dump now. With a LOT of money and years of renovations it can be not a dump, still in a terrible location. |
Originally Posted by rogo
(Post 33112600)
For 10 minutes once upon a time, the Palms became hot off strip. It was a miracle of sorts. It ended.
Rio was a dump when it opened. It's a dump now. With a LOT of money and years of renovations it can be not a dump, still in a terrible location. David |
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