Originally Posted by FlyEndeavorAir
(Post 32872607)
What law is that?
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Originally Posted by dkc192
(Post 32871288)
Allowing in-state residents would be against the letter and spirit of the order they are trying to comply with here, which makes no distinction between non-essential travel from in-state vs out-of-state residents IIRC.
Except as otherwise required by law, no hotel or lodging entity in California shall accept or honor out of state reservations for non-essential travel, unless the reservation is for at least the minimum time period required for quarantine and the persons identified in the reservation will quarantine in the hotel or lodging entity until after that time period has expired. This should also apply to Airbnb. |
Oof just came across this thread. Have an overnight planned in SJC otw to HI. Last year we stayed at the HH SJC and it was easy to get there, sleep, and leave first thing in the morning. I had called the property several nights ago and they said it was at each guest's risk. So I guess we will see....
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Originally Posted by JIMCHI
(Post 32872629)
Stay-at-Home orders covering much of the state right now.
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Originally Posted by sam_goh
(Post 32872892)
Have an overnight planned in SJC otw to HI.
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Originally Posted by nmpls
(Post 32872872)
The order does make a distinction.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/up...U-Scenario.pdf This should also apply to Airbnb. |
Originally Posted by Majuki
(Post 32872925)
Santa Clara County and a couple of the other counties in the Bay Area are under modified SAH orders proactively even though the state isn't requiring them to shut down at this point since they haven't met the threshold. San Mateo County chose not to go along with this. Also unique to Santa Clara County is a quarantine requirement if one is coming in from an origin > 150 miles and spending the night in the county with some exceptions.
With the original shut down order in March, there was no governmental enforcement of any hotel stay restrictions. There were anecdotal reports of some properties asking you to sign a certification that your travel qualified for an exception. I suspect that's about the most we'll see this time, too, but time will tell. |
Grand Hyatt SFO is a top of list fav and go-to for SFO long layovers or day before positioning flights, I know many employees there by first name basis, hate to hear this for their sake :( The Hyatts in Turkey, Costa Rica, Mexico, and various US locations could not have been more thrilled to welcome my wife and I, so that they can feed their families. They (humans who depend on working to survive) have already been devastated by the insanity. I await, one, single, credible study ("science") that confirms hotels doing business causes covid increases. I have personally seen the damage the "lockdowns" cause. History will judge the sheep very harshly for this mess.
I make it a point to tip everyone far higher than I ever have, and I sleep soundly at night knowing my travels support working families. |
Is transit an exception for the CA rules? Surely there are a lot of overnight connections to/from international flights and CA doesn't want to lose that business for their airports. In addition, more people are allowing more time at major airports like SFO and LAX for COVID-19 testing, including before travel to Hawaii.
BTW, is AirBnB considered lodging? Logic would say yes, but they might argue that it's more like renting a furnished apartment or even house guesting with someone you know (like couch surfing). |
Originally Posted by Deez Nutz
(Post 32872921)
Laws are passed by the legislature, not issued by the governor and/or public health officials.
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Originally Posted by smilee
(Post 32872435)
If this trip is non-essential why are you taking it and putting other people's health at risk?
And if we want to vent at someone, vent at companies that invite us to travel - here is today's email from ihg "just jump in the car and go" https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a8ab0c4089.jpg |
There are plenty of foreign travellers in California. Are they going to kick them all out or refuse a reservation? That won't go over well.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 32873607)
Is transit an exception for the CA rules?
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 32873607)
CA doesn't want to lose that business for their airports.
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So what would you do if you were governor ? What information would you trust and rely on ?
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Originally Posted by JIMCHI
(Post 32874249)
So what would you do if you were governor ? What information would you trust and rely on ?
But I would focus on mask compliance and any additional restrictions would be narrowly tailored to address known high risk activities (like indoor drinking and dining). I find the views of Scott Morrow (San Mateo County Health Officer) on this subject particularly compelling. He's declined to go along with the knee-jerk scientifically unsupported decisions by other Bay Area health officers because he doesn't believe the science justifies the economic harm. And that imposing scientifically unsupported, nanny-state restrictions just causes people to tune out and ultimately decreases compliance with restrictions that do matter. |
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