Hyatt Category Changes 2019
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I know how Category changes are decided. But when your cash rate is steadily under $200 it makes no sense to make your property a Cat 5. Most Cat 5 properties daily rate is $350-$500. I searched a dozen dates for GH DFW and found only 2 where the rate went over $200, and even then it’s $209. I know that GH DFW is almost all corporate travelers so paying in points means nothing. But making this property a Cat 5 makes no sense at all as no one with points would book it, and the pricing makes no sense to be in a Cat 5.
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I know how Category changes are decided. But when your cash rate is steadily under $200 it makes no sense to make your property a Cat 5. Most Cat 5 properties daily rate is $350-$500. I searched a dozen dates for GH DFW and found only 2 where the rate went over $200, and even then it’s $209. I know that GH DFW is almost all corporate travelers so paying in points means nothing. But making this property a Cat 5 makes no sense at all as no one with points would book it, and the pricing makes no sense to be in a Cat 5.
#111
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I also feel like a good amount of Hyatt’s Partner hotels are in completely wrong Categories. I think they do need to rework their formula and I do believe over time they will.
HC Fisherman’s Wharf I think honestly should be a Cat 4, it has a nice location but not much more going for it. That’s what I really hope changes back more than anything.
Traveling up and down Texas numerous times I have actually found pretty good value in their Cat 1-2 properties. My opinion (yes, just opinion) is that based on the cash rates I’ve seen for GH DFW through 2019 and 2020 it should be a Cat 4, and based on the surrounding Hyatt properties. Isn’t HR DFW a Cat 2? Anyways just my opinion everyone has their own.
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Traveling up and down Texas numerous times I have actually found pretty good value in their Cat 1-2 properties. My opinion (yes, just opinion) is that based on the cash rates I’ve seen for GH DFW through 2019 and 2020 it should be a Cat 4, and based on the surrounding Hyatt properties. Isn’t HR DFW a Cat 2? Anyways just my opinion everyone has their own.
And yeah, the HR DFW is cat 2 (and is pretty much attached to DFW as well), and the HR Dallas is a cat 3 and most often more expensive than the GH DFW.
There are a few times when the GH DFW goes for $300 for a night (I've seen it only when the last batch of rooms are sold during irrops happening at the airport, or on a few random M-F nights when some function/meeting is booked), but usually it is $180-230. I think cat 4 is plenty fair, but the current cat 5 designation is a stretch. And though I don't know what the hotel occupancy rate is normally, it gets very very quiet on holidays and weekends. I had a maintenance issue the last time I was there and was told by the maintenance head that occupancy was 15% that night.
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If you ONLY book hotels that are going up in category, that's a bit short-sighted. If it's a really good deal now, then you shouldn't need to wait until Hyatt recognises that...
#114
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I'm trying to use Cat 1-4 free nights so that won't work for a property that's currently Cat 5. Would be nice to use those free nights at Baha Mar, but that's rolling the dice if they don't make any announcements until February. Although not likely to drop after just moving up to Cat 5, would be nice if Papagayo or Coconut Point dropped back to Cat 4.
#115
I'm trying to use Cat 1-4 free nights so that won't work for a property that's currently Cat 5. Would be nice to use those free nights at Baha Mar, but that's rolling the dice if they don't make any announcements until February. Although not likely to drop after just moving up to Cat 5, would be nice if Papagayo or Coconut Point dropped back to Cat 4.