The Term 'Globalist'
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The Term 'Globalist'
I think we've all been a little surprised by World of Hyatt's choices for elite status level names.
But now they might really have a problem.
Here's a quote from Axios:
(source: https://www.axios.com/bannon-is-back...474568863.html )
There was the diet pill called Ayds and the payment network called Isis. I'm thinking Globalist will be joining those terms in the graveyard.
Unsolicited suggestions for a replacement?
But now they might really have a problem.
Here's a quote from Axios:
Why it matters, as Axios' Jonathan Swan reported earlier, Bannon has told associates Breitbart is his "killing machine" and that he's ready to go "thermonuclear" with the "globalists" upon his exit from the White House.
There was the diet pill called Ayds and the payment network called Isis. I'm thinking Globalist will be joining those terms in the graveyard.
Unsolicited suggestions for a replacement?
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I like the term globalist just fine, I prefer it to 'jewelry' and 'metallurgy' titles anyways which is confusingly used across other hotel programs, airlines, credit cards, etc for totally different sort of programs. Travel reward programs using travel-related terms seems natural, even if WOH is the only ones really doing so.
Breitbart likes to use the word "globalist" as a way to attack others, and you know why? Because "Globalists" in many right-wing circles has been more or less a euphemism for "Jews" for decades, perhaps a century now. I would prefer that WoH just ignore them.
Breitbart likes to use the word "globalist" as a way to attack others, and you know why? Because "Globalists" in many right-wing circles has been more or less a euphemism for "Jews" for decades, perhaps a century now. I would prefer that WoH just ignore them.
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Globalists, even the way Brietbart uses it and tried to define it, is neither.
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The problem is we are being brainwashed by both the left and the right. Things become political because self-centered activists need attention.
My point is that "Globalist" is a stupid name because it is politically charged, but SJWs could start whining that "Diamond" is a trigger (as in "blood diamond").
The fact is that Hyatt cannot back down from it's political choice and obviously doesn't want to. A lot of members are voting with their feet. Their choices are not very important in the high occupancy of this vibrant economy. Hyatt will sorely miss them when the business cycle changes. The silver lining will be bigger promotions and lower room rates.
My point is that "Globalist" is a stupid name because it is politically charged, but SJWs could start whining that "Diamond" is a trigger (as in "blood diamond").
The fact is that Hyatt cannot back down from it's political choice and obviously doesn't want to. A lot of members are voting with their feet. Their choices are not very important in the high occupancy of this vibrant economy. Hyatt will sorely miss them when the business cycle changes. The silver lining will be bigger promotions and lower room rates.
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I like the term globalist just fine, I prefer it to 'jewelry' and 'metallurgy' titles anyways which is confusingly used across other hotel programs, airlines, credit cards, etc for totally different sort of programs. Travel reward programs using travel-related terms seems natural, even if WOH is the only ones really doing so.
Breitbart likes to use the word "globalist" as a way to attack others, and you know why? Because "Globalists" in many right-wing circles has been more or less a euphemism for "Jews" for decades, perhaps a century now. I would prefer that WoH just ignore them.
Breitbart likes to use the word "globalist" as a way to attack others, and you know why? Because "Globalists" in many right-wing circles has been more or less a euphemism for "Jews" for decades, perhaps a century now. I would prefer that WoH just ignore them.
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I don't care about the political connotations of the term, I just think it is absurdly stupid sounding. Of course, not as bad as the not-even-a-real-word terms like Explorist and Discoverist, as evidenced by the red squiggly lines I get by even typing them.
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The way the right wing denigrates the term 'globalist' just isn't something worth paying attention to to me. As JackE says, its about self-centered right wing activists trying to get attention for their political cause.
As for the terms, I think they are all just fine, though explorer and discoverer make more sense than the fake words explorist and a discoverist which are fake terms like antonius says. But I like the names better than gold/platinum/diamond/ruby and the other stale 'jewelry' names out there. Maybe it is because I don't actually value metals and gemstones -at all- and so I feel pretentious claiming statuses with the terms. Discover, Explore, and Global I can better relate to. Not to say that Globalist needs to be the term, others would work (adventurist, voyager, globetrotter, etc), but changing it because Steve Bannon wants to make it a dirty word is just dumb.
As for WoH, I like, perhaps LOVE, the new tier system. Perhaps the old 25 stay/25 night fake diamonds get mad, but I stay at Hyatts more often now that my 30-40 night a year travel (7-9 stays or so) mean more and get recognized on equal grounds as the frequent overnight traveler. As a mid-often traveler, WoH is giving more perks than the competition, and more than their old system, so you vote with your feet, I vote with mine.
As for the terms, I think they are all just fine, though explorer and discoverer make more sense than the fake words explorist and a discoverist which are fake terms like antonius says. But I like the names better than gold/platinum/diamond/ruby and the other stale 'jewelry' names out there. Maybe it is because I don't actually value metals and gemstones -at all- and so I feel pretentious claiming statuses with the terms. Discover, Explore, and Global I can better relate to. Not to say that Globalist needs to be the term, others would work (adventurist, voyager, globetrotter, etc), but changing it because Steve Bannon wants to make it a dirty word is just dumb.
As for WoH, I like, perhaps LOVE, the new tier system. Perhaps the old 25 stay/25 night fake diamonds get mad, but I stay at Hyatts more often now that my 30-40 night a year travel (7-9 stays or so) mean more and get recognized on equal grounds as the frequent overnight traveler. As a mid-often traveler, WoH is giving more perks than the competition, and more than their old system, so you vote with your feet, I vote with mine.
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I've really warmed to the new names; plus, the explorist tier enhances the program by filling in the gap.
What I disliked was the WoH launch commercial which I believe is misinformed by stereotyping certain types of people as 'misunderstood' or needing more awareness.
What I disliked was the WoH launch commercial which I believe is misinformed by stereotyping certain types of people as 'misunderstood' or needing more awareness.
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The upside to "Globalist" is if you are an "Explorist" or even not even that, you can in all honestly claim to be a "Globalist" at a property if that's what your politics are.