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steveholt Feb 7, 2024 10:15 am


Originally Posted by EuropeanPete (Post 35977560)
Great the hotel looks to still be able to perform - even if irregularly.

And Americans, please stop ordering avocado toast in Paris. It is just almost never going to work out well for you.

Very bizarre to frame Americans as the leaders of the avocado toast movement around the world. (I'm also sure there are plenty of places in Paris that serve wonderful avocado toast.)

m0hamed Feb 7, 2024 5:37 pm


Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 35978584)
Very bizarre to frame Americans as the leaders of the avocado toast movement around the world. (I'm also sure there are plenty of places in Paris that serve wonderful avocado toast.)

It was Bill Granger of Bill’s who first put this on a cafe menu and is Australian. He recently passed away.

https://www.smh.com.au/goodfood/recipes/how-to-make-bill-granger-s-original-and-best-avocado-toast-20231227-p5ettt.html

CLEguy Feb 7, 2024 7:53 pm


Originally Posted by EuropeanPete (Post 35977560)
Great the hotel looks to still be able to perform - even if irregularly.

And Americans, please stop ordering avocado toast in Paris. It is just almost never going to work out well for you.


Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 35978584)
Very bizarre to frame Americans as the leaders of the avocado toast movement around the world. (I'm also sure there are plenty of places in Paris that serve wonderful avocado toast.)


Originally Posted by m0hamed (Post 35979886)
It was Bill Granger of Bill’s who first put this on a cafe menu and is Australian. He recently passed away.

https://www.smh.com.au/goodfood/reci...27-p5ettt.html

There are two great luxuries in being American:
  1. Ordering whatever the hell we want for breakfast
  2. Baselessly claiming ownership over things someone else created

lalala Feb 7, 2024 8:23 pm


Originally Posted by EuropeanPete (Post 35977560)
Great the hotel looks to still be able to perform - even if irregularly.

And Americans, please stop ordering avocado toast in Paris. It is just almost never going to work out well for you.

I'm not sure about that, but it seems in a place with a million butter choices, not such a great idea.

steveholt Feb 7, 2024 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by m0hamed (Post 35979886)
It was Bill Granger of Bill’s who first put this on a cafe menu and is Australian. He recently passed away.

https://www.smh.com.au/goodfood/reci...27-p5ettt.html

I'm aware! I'm used to people complaining that Americans want comforts from home when they travel, but avocado toast isn't even a popular dish in America outside of the major cities.

EuropeanPete Feb 8, 2024 1:54 am


Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 35978584)
Very bizarre to frame Americans as the leaders of the avocado toast movement around the world. (I'm also sure there are plenty of places in Paris that serve wonderful avocado toast.)

Aussies definitely started it, but you don't see too many of them in Paris.

I have lived in Paris and am pretty sure there are not plenty of places that serve wonderful avocado toast (there may be 1-2 that I have never heard of, but I doubt it. I never even found a good avocado). Similarly, when in Paris I do not expect my yorkshire pudding to have the right crispness to it. You have to read the room.

steveholt Feb 8, 2024 10:11 am


Originally Posted by EuropeanPete (Post 35980618)
Aussies definitely started it, but you don't see too many of them in Paris.

I have lived in Paris and am pretty sure there are not plenty of places that serve wonderful avocado toast (there may be 1-2 that I have never heard of, but I doubt it. I never even found a good avocado). Similarly, when in Paris I do not expect my yorkshire pudding to have the right crispness to it. You have to read the room.

There are more Americans than Australians in Paris, of course, but Americans are not flocking to Paris to get a taste of their beloved avocado toast, because avocado toast is not a beloved dish in America. It would be like saying "And Chinese, please stop ordering avocado toast in Paris."

travelbugging Feb 25, 2024 2:15 pm

Is it common for front desk/reception to call your room the day before checkout and ask if there is anything they can help with? Haven’t had this happen at other Park Hyatts and was just curious if this was their long winded approach to ask when we’re checking out.

Kacee Feb 25, 2024 4:34 pm


Originally Posted by travelbugging (Post 36029754)
Is it common for front desk/reception to call your room the day before checkout and ask if there is anything they can help with? Haven’t had this happen at other Park Hyatts and was just curious if this was their long winded approach to ask when we’re checking out.

No, it's excellent pro-active service in case, for example, you need assistance with airport transportation.

Originally Posted by EuropeanPete (Post 35977560)
And Americans, please stop ordering avocado toast in Paris. It is just almost never going to work out well for you.

I'm pretty sure it would work out well here: https://www.ziaparis.com/

Chef Justin Kent is an American with a French mother whose resume includes l'Arpege. We had dinner at his new(ish) restaurant, Milagro, and it was fantastic. Great location in the 7th.

platbrownguy Mar 16, 2024 6:48 am


Originally Posted by platbrownguy (Post 35865091)
1. assuming no such availability pops up, and assuming the hotel does not proactively upgrade to a suite, what is a ballpark expectation for cash upgrade per night (e.g., at check-in) to a deluxe suite or exec suite?

2. any recent reports on the airport arrival service? I am leaning towards booking it because the planeside meeting sounds amazing, especially since I'll have a 2-year-old in tow.

3. assuming I fork over $$$($) for a paid suite upgrade, what would be the recommendation for a quiet room (i.e. the least street noise) or quiet nook within the room in which to place the crib for the 2-year-old?

As an update, I am here now. A week before arrival, Édouard reached out and asked preferences and some other things. I had found SUA availability (for 6 nights, not for 3, but the Hyatt Twitter DM team was able to get it applied for just my 3 nights and had updated the reservation to include my kid). So we had a Park King Suite booked on points+SUA, but I asked for any paid upgrade offers to a proper suite with a separate bedroom. He offered an executive suite with view for 650/night or a Prestige for 850. I agreed to the 650 (essentially I view it as paying 650/night and using the 40k points and the SUA as a copay). The suite is beautiful, very tall ceilings, lots of mirrors, extremely quiet and dark with the blackout shades (ny 2 year old has been napping midday without making a peep). A nice Médoc and a bowl of exotic fruits (lychees and berries, etc -- for the kid, per his preferences) greeted us along with a signature palmier.

The planeside VIP arrival service was seamless and very welcome after a 14.5-hour flight from Korea. I would do it again for sure.

Also, OT, but we walked through the St. Honoré market this morning and there were indeed some beautiful looking (and feeling) avocados for sale, along with some of the best looking long-stemmed artichokes I've ever seen. So good avocados do exist here!

beachfan Mar 16, 2024 10:31 am

Thanks for the info on the paid upgrade. Higher than I expected. It was 400 euros offered (320 eventually accepted) in September 21.


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