Park Hyatt Paris-Vendôme REVIEW - MASTER THREAD (Aug 2011 onward)
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Just returned from our first trip to Paris and first stay at PHV. What a great hotel; room was beautiful (Park King Deluxe), hotel staff was fantastic, and the location can't be beat. We ended up taking a cab both ways - came to around 46 Euro each way. Would like to use try the Roissy bus on our next trip, saw it around town several times. Hopefully, I'll be play on the next trip and get to experience the much raved about breakfast. |
Originally Posted by dinasaur
(Post 16943149)
A question that I've been meaning to ask for a while:
We had a lovely stay at PH Vendome back in the spring. I sent two of the hotel stationery postcards back to the states, taking advantage of the front desk's offer to mail them without my needing to purchase postage. They both arrived within a week... without any post markings of any kind. Has anyone else experienced this? How was my mail delivered? Was a fluke? Owl post? But while we're on the topic of your post, if you had magic at your disposal, why the heck should you require owls to move the mail? |
Originally Posted by RichardInSF
(Post 16936378)
Another vote for Roissybus. Drivers even have a variety of alternative routes which they can use to get around Paris traffic. It's a good service, reasonably priced. I'd generally pick it over the RER.
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Originally Posted by speedytimmy
(Post 16958988)
I would add a vote for the Roissy bus but leave ample time for not only traffic on the way to CDG but for the fact that CDG isn't the most efficient airport to navigate through.
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Question conc3erning French Open
My wife and I might want to visit the PHV on points for a few nights (likely three) toward the end of next May. The French Open starts on May 27. We might have a bit of wiggle room in terms of our schedule, departing as early Saturday, May 26 or as late as Monday, May 28. I understand from a couple of posts on this thread that the hotel can be quite crowded due to the guests coming to see the Open. In terms of getting a chance at better rooms beyond the standard (using points or $$) or any other perks, does anyone have any sense of whether it would make more sense to shoot for May 23-26 as opposed to May 25-28? Or is any difference not worth planning our schedule around?
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Thunderroad, I'd suggest that you try hard (keep checking) for all of those nights and upgrades for all of them, or as many as you can get, at the earliest time, and then trim to what you really want before the cancellation deadline arrives. Then you could revolve the stay dates around the upgrade dates. The earlier that you get the upgrade, and the earlier toward 5.23 that you establish it, the more likely that others will fall into place. If the upgrades are really important to you, it's worth the work. However, upgrades at the PH Vendome aren't a big deal, IMO. As is clear above, you're very unlikely to be disappointed. :)
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I've stayed at this hotel, unknowingly, during the French Open -- I only realized it when I saw Tsonga checking out the day after he lost -- and it seemed to me that the suites weren't all taken, if for no other reason than I got one. So I'd say you have a chance.
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Originally Posted by RichardInSF
(Post 16951576)
Hi Dinasaur and welcome to FT! I am guessing it was a lucky fluke.
But while we're on the topic of your post, if you had magic at your disposal, why the heck should you require owls to move the mail? Thanks for the welcome! It's just too weird to me that two separate postcards both made it through. We may never know (until the next PH Vendome stay!) I have an upcoming stay at the PH Milan, so I'll be giving their mail services a try as well, for sure. ...I'm putting way too much thought into your question about owls and magic! I have some theories, but none of them are remotely on-topic, so I'll have to let it go. |
Originally Posted by Firewind
(Post 16966498)
Thunderroad, I'd suggest that you try hard (keep checking) for all of those nights and upgrades for all of them, or as many as you can get, at the earliest time, and then trim to what you really want before the cancellation deadline arrives. Then you could revolve the stay dates around the upgrade dates. The earlier that you get the upgrade, and the earlier toward 5.23 that you establish it, the more likely that others will fall into place. If the upgrades are really important to you, it's worth the work. However, upgrades at the PH Vendome aren't a big deal, IMO. As is clear above, you're very unlikely to be disappointed. :)
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Award Night with Child
Has anyone booked a room on points for 2 adults and a child (3yo)?
The hotel said it would be fine via email, but GP will only book a suite with points. But GP also told me that no normal rooms were available at all (completely wrong, called them out on it). I would go for a suite, but the base level suite isn't worth the extra 33K IMO (its only marginally bigger, no extra amenities). They allow a kid in the standard room type for revenue bookings, albeit with a surcharge. The GP agent called the hotel, and they said that the room wouldn't fit three. The call to the hotel only took one minute. I was thinking of calling again, but I hate being that guy. Anyone here have experience with kids here? |
Originally Posted by tjbrooks
(Post 17006619)
Has anyone booked a room on points for 2 adults and a child (3yo)?
The hotel said it would be fine via email, but GP will only book a suite with points. But GP also told me that no normal rooms were available at all (completely wrong, called them out on it). I would go for a suite, but the base level suite isn't worth the extra 33K IMO (its only marginally bigger, no extra amenities). They allow a kid in the standard room type for revenue bookings, albeit with a surcharge. The GP agent called the hotel, and they said that the room wouldn't fit three. The call to the hotel only took one minute. I was thinking of calling again, but I hate being that guy. Anyone here have experience with kids here? I suggest calling directly to the property and speaking with the reservations department. |
Just finished a 4 night award stay (8/21-8/25). Used my 2 chase suite night awards, and points for the other 2 nights.
I was given the park suite king for all for nights (without asking), and the front desk was well versed on breakfast for Diamonds (I had read some mixed experiences in this thread). They made it clear (without me asking) that I could order the american breakfast in the room, or visit the buffet downstairs. As others have stated, it was excellent. They mentioned that there was construction going on, but I did not hear or see anything at all during my stay. All of the staff were friendly and spoke perfect English. To confirm another point discussed in this thread, I don't feel that I was treated any differently for being an award guest vs a paying guest...I couldn't have been any happier with my stay. |
Originally Posted by MikeFromTokyo
(Post 17007172)
The Deluxe Rooms and above should be fine for two adults and one child in a roll away bed.
I suggest calling directly to the property and speaking with the reservations department. Luckily when I tried to book my Air Tahiti Nui tickets (after my invalid reservation) they had spelled my wife and son's names wrong, so I'm waiting for that to get done still. So I'll most likely just not add on a quick Paris trip. I have a feeling my type is not wanted at this hotel. |
Staying at the hotel now.. room wasn't ready until 3pm and no Diamond amenity.
Should I inquire about the Diamond amenity? |
Originally Posted by krazieman
(Post 17028349)
Staying at the hotel now.. room wasn't ready until 3pm and no Diamond amenity.
Should I inquire about the Diamond amenity? |
Originally Posted by krazieman
(Post 17028349)
Staying at the hotel now.. room wasn't ready until 3pm and no Diamond amenity.
Should I inquire about the Diamond amenity? For what its worth, I was there last week on a 4 night award stay. My suite was ready at 10:30am; and a box of chocolates was already in the room when we arrived. On the second day, they sent a bottle of champagne and a tray of macaroons; along with a hand written note from the manager. |
It's not up to the front desk person. It's supposed to be set up earlier in the day. Which can be confounded by a room change at scrimmage. In which case, there's a race between you and room service to get to your room. Sometimes (seldom and not just here) they don't get off of the scrimmage line without a nudge, particularly if room service is slammed. In which case, add the tip, unless you go on walkabout right about then.
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During one of my stays at the property, the Diamond amenity was absent, so I made a quick call to the front desk and they said it would promptly be there and apologized.
Literally, about 2 minutes later, wait staff came to the room with a bottle of wine and two red wine glasses. Thinking that was the fastest service I've ever seen, I politely thanked the gentlemen and thought little more about it. Until 10 minutes later when the knock at the door revealed yet another (different) staff member toting another bottle of wine and two glasses. I was caught off guard as he came in and placed it down adjacent to the first. He flinched a bit at seeing the existing one, said nothing, and left the room. In short order, I realized that the first delivery was intended to be the actual pre-planned Diamond amenity, and evidently when I called to request the "missing amenity", they didn't realize one was en route and had another sent up. I left the second bottle of wine in the room upon departure. It was a short stay and I don't fancy drinking alone in my room. |
booked two rooms, two nights this past week (trip report)
Used points for both nights. One room was upgraded to large suite, both rooms on sixth floor. This was a lovely hotel with much character, windows that opened, attentive service and great location. The spa was rather small and co-ed. Prices for beverages in the bar on high end (27Euro). Concierge was helpful. As a DM, had no problem with the free breakfast (many meat/cheese/cereal/pastry selections). I'd stay here again, the value for the points vs room cost was a good use of accumulated pts. Bought day pass to the Louve from Concierge, saved us considerable time, we didnt need to wait in line. DM amenity wasnt delivered, need to remind to deliver to room.
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Probably about 5 mins after my post, someone showed up with the diamond amenity. This may have been due partly to the fact that my room wasn't available until almost 4pm.
Also, I agree that the bar prices were definitely high. No drinks under 25 Euros. Other than that, great stay, excellent location. The closet/bathroom in the jr. suite was huge. I still think the PH Shanghai has a much better breakfast though. |
another excellent stay at the PHV. I still prefer the PH Ist due to its more intimate/boutique feel, but PHV is a great hotel. Had dinner in Pur' this time, excellent food and service - really terrific Wagyu steak. :D
and answer to secret question: not easy, but with some imagination works pretty well ;) |
Originally Posted by Stewie Mac
(Post 17114371)
and answer to secret question: not easy, but with some imagination works pretty well ;)
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I am going to use 4 Chase Hyatt award nights at PHV. I am brand new to Hyatt and although I have done a ton of reading I would still like to clarify these last couple questions, please:
1.. It looks like I will be in a Park Queen or Park Twin for my Chase Hyatt nights, correct (I am a Platinum by way of the card too, obviously)? 2. Is it possible to pay for an upgrade on an award stay (I do this quite often at Hilton) or any other way to get to a higher level room? 3. Is spending 22k on my Chase Hyatt my best bet of reaching Diamond quickly considering there is no way I can do it with stays? Any other thoughts and advice for a newb doing an award stay here would be appreciated! |
Originally Posted by Cubswin
(Post 17117546)
I am going to use 4 Chase Hyatt award nights at PHV. I am brand new to Hyatt and although I have done a ton of reading I would still like to clarify these last couple questions, please:
1.. It looks like I will be in a Park Queen or Park Twin for my Chase Hyatt nights, correct (I am a Platinum by way of the card too, obviously)? 2. Is it possible to pay for an upgrade on an award stay (I do this quite often at Hilton) or any other way to get to a higher level room? 3. Is spending 22k on my Chase Hyatt my best bet of reaching Diamond quickly considering there is no way I can do it with stays? Any other thoughts and advice for a newb doing an award stay here would be appreciated! 2. Contact the property after you make the reservation and / or at check-in. 3. Nope - there is no credit for spend that would work towards status (other than getting Platinum for getting the card). |
Originally Posted by Firewind
(Post 16966498)
Thunderroad, I'd suggest that you try hard (keep checking) for all of those nights and upgrades for all of them, or as many as you can get, at the earliest time, and then trim to what you really want before the cancellation deadline arrives. Then you could revolve the stay dates around the upgrade dates. The earlier that you get the upgrade, and the earlier toward 5.23 that you establish it, the more likely that others will fall into place. If the upgrades are really important to you, it's worth the work. However, upgrades at the PH Vendome aren't a big deal, IMO. As is clear above, you're very unlikely to be disappointed. :)
Originally Posted by RichardInSF
(Post 16968070)
I've stayed at this hotel, unknowingly, during the French Open -- I only realized it when I saw Tsonga checking out the day after he lost -- and it seemed to me that the suites weren't all taken, if for no other reason than I got one. So I'd say you have a chance.
Originally Posted by cazic99
(Post 16985993)
How does one get 'Upgrades ahead of time"?
Originally Posted by Cubswin
(Post 17117546)
I am going to use 4 Chase Hyatt award nights at PHV. I am brand new to Hyatt and although I have done a ton of reading I would still like to clarify these last couple questions, please:
1.. It looks like I will be in a Park Queen or Park Twin for my Chase Hyatt nights, correct (I am a Platinum by way of the card too, obviously)? 2. Is it possible to pay for an upgrade on an award stay (I do this quite often at Hilton) or any other way to get to a higher level room? 3. Is spending 22k on my Chase Hyatt my best bet of reaching Diamond quickly considering there is no way I can do it with stays? Any other thoughts and advice for a newb doing an award stay here would be appreciated! |
Originally Posted by Cubswin
(Post 17117546)
3. Is spending 22k on my Chase Hyatt my best bet of reaching Diamond quickly considering there is no way I can do it with stays?
What made you think this? Never heard anything like this before. BTW, we're going for 5 nights in December with the Hyatt Certificates my wife and I got from the Capitol One card. Using a Diamond Suite upgrade and can't wait to go back to this wonderful hotel. |
Sorry guys, I am reading literally hundreds of pages about Hyatt, Continental, Paris, Rome, Park Hyatt Vendome, Rome Cavalieri, etc etc etc and I thought that I read that somewhere.
I am VERY VERY likely mistaken and I apologize for any confusion! Thanks for you answers! |
If anyone has a contact at the hotel to discuss thee possibility of a paid upgrade I would be grateful for a PM, thanks!
I am aware that I can contact reservations but if anyone has someone they have had good luck with in the past I would prefer that if possible. |
Originally Posted by Cubswin
(Post 17117780)
If anyone has a contact at the hotel to discuss thee possibility of a paid upgrade I would be grateful for a PM, thanks!
I am aware that I can contact reservations but if anyone has someone they have had good luck with in the past I would prefer that if possible. |
Anyone know if a Diamond using a Diamond Suite upgrade - that usually gets a Park King Suite - ever gets upgraded to an Executive Suite?
We are booked with AMEX (using Capital One Hyatt certificates) with a Suite upgrade. I really don't like using AMEX Centurion Travel - yes, they have perks but the agents always know less than I do about where we are going and what we are doing - basically, they take orders. Spoke to a Virtuoso agent and she contacted the hotel. They are prepared to sell me the Executive suite for 795 Euro per night rather than the 990 on the website. Also offered fourth night free with three paid nights - trip is five nights so it would be one free night. Stayed there once and it was pretty special. The other Virtuoso perks don't mean much as I get most stuff as a Diamond. Thanks. |
Originally Posted by stevens397
(Post 17155113)
Anyone know if a Diamond using a Diamond Suite upgrade - that usually gets a Park King Suite - ever gets upgraded to an Executive Suite?
We are booked with AMEX (using Capital One Hyatt certificates) with a Suite upgrade. I really don't like using AMEX Centurion Travel - yes, they have perks but the agents always know less than I do about where we are going and what we are doing - basically, they take orders. Spoke to a Virtuoso agent and she contacted the hotel. They are prepared to sell me the Executive suite for 795 Euro per night rather than the 990 on the website. Also offered fourth night free with three paid nights - trip is five nights so it would be one free night. Stayed there once and it was pretty special. The other Virtuoso perks don't mean much as I get most stuff as a Diamond. Thanks. Suite upgrades aren't that useful at this property, since they only get you confirmed in the Park Suite (Jr. Suite), which is very nice, but not that much more expensive than the standard and deluxe rooms. The best way to get value out of the suite upgrades is to use them at properties where the suites are significantly more expensive than the rooms. |
Arigato, Mike. I agree. All done.
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Originally Posted by stevens397
(Post 17155525)
Arigato, Mike. I agree. All done.
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Originally Posted by peteropny
(Post 17156266)
My last stay at this property, I booked a Park Suite on awards (all points) and was further upgraded to Park Executive (I did email the property since I had some contact info based upon an earlier stay with some glitches (nothing major) and asked for consideration for a further upgrade and a view of Rue de la Paix rather than a courtyard view). This was the rare exception where I contact the property regarding an upcoming stay.
BTW everyone, one of the other benefits with a standard Virtuoso booking at this hotel is free limo service either from or to the airport. Nice! |
Wow! These Virtuoso benefits are huge. Thanks for the G2, folks. This will certainly impact my future bookings. I feel like I've been getting screwed up until now!
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Originally Posted by stevens397
(Post 17156732)
At this point, I'm happy to have the Executive Suite guaranteed for only $100 per night. Only sad thing is that this will possibly be my last Diamond stay and all the benefits are being duplicated by Virtuoso!
BTW everyone, one of the other benefits with a standard Virtuoso booking at this hotel is free limo service either from or to the airport. Nice! The airport transfer is a huge benefit as this is normally charged at over EUR 200 each way. |
Originally Posted by MikeFromTokyo
(Post 17158643)
The best part is that you probably have a good chance of an upgrade- the Prestige Suite and higher categories are a big step up from the executive suite.
The airport transfer is a huge benefit as this is normally charged at over EUR 200 each way. While the airport transfer may be charged at over E200, I bet you can get a taxi to or from the airport for E80 or less. |
Originally Posted by RichardInSF
(Post 17160313)
While the airport transfer may be charged at over E200, I bet you can get a taxi to or from the airport for E80 or less.
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I have no experience with the PH Vendome's cars, but if the transfers are anything like the George V's transfers- which they should be since they are around the same price- they also will include VIP treatment upon arrival at CDG.
I would also usually choose a taxi given the price difference, but there is definitely significant value to the hotel car transfers beyond what a taxi would offer. |
Originally Posted by calibeachgal
(Post 15484310)
Just curious, but is this room the "PARK SUITE KING" room? That's what I have listed on my upcoming reservation, but I really have no idea what to expect.
TIA! |
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