Hilton Cabo King Premier Suite
#92
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 153
#93
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: DCA
Programs: HH Diamond, IHG Platinum, Marriott Gold, Wyd Plat.
Posts: 69
I want to make sure I'm not doing something wrong. Is it the Hilton Cabo San Lucas?
That is the one I'm looking at but all award availability is gone until
Aug and it is 40,000 points per night.
Does anybod have any advice how to find the rate you all have gotten?
#95
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 65
Is the deal dead or am I just late to the party?
I want to make sure I'm not doing something wrong. Is it the Hilton Cabo San Lucas?
That is the one I'm looking at but all award availability is gone until
Aug and it is 40,000 points per night.
Does anybod have any advice how to find the rate you all have gotten?
I want to make sure I'm not doing something wrong. Is it the Hilton Cabo San Lucas?
That is the one I'm looking at but all award availability is gone until
Aug and it is 40,000 points per night.
Does anybod have any advice how to find the rate you all have gotten?
#97
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: Delta Gold, UA Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 275
#99
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: FCO
Posts: 249
Must at least be 7 since someone said they had booked 7 rooms
Personally I would be more than happy if they would choose a "democratic" solution by honouring not more than 1 reservation for each name showing under booking details. By doing this I speculate that they will recover at least 50-60% of the income loss and will make most of people really happy about this deal of a lifetime.
#101
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 413
Let's make some speculation: giving the fact that more or less 10 units were "on sale" each day from 15th july to 25th march, it makes around 2500 rooms. At about $3000/usd per night it means that this "deal" will generate more or less $7,500.000 in income loss ( I am not considering all the people like me who booked at 41 usd/night, but it will generate around $ 100.000, which is not relevant considering the total amount).
Personally I would be more than happy if they would choose a "democratic" solution by honouring not more than 1 reservation for each name showing under booking details. By doing this I speculate that they will recover at least 50-60% of the income loss and will make most of people really happy about this deal of a lifetime.
Personally I would be more than happy if they would choose a "democratic" solution by honouring not more than 1 reservation for each name showing under booking details. By doing this I speculate that they will recover at least 50-60% of the income loss and will make most of people really happy about this deal of a lifetime.
1) I checked many different days and could not find 1 example where you could even book this type of room on their web site (other than the points option) to see what the cash rate is.
2) The Governor Suite which is significantly larger (1274 vs 1095 sq feet) and also ocean front goes for $1200 / night.
3) The room listed on their web site for $3500 / night is a 2 bedroom suite - not at all what we booked.
#102
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: FCO
Posts: 249
I don't understand why people keep saying these rooms are $3k USD / night? I have seen this referenced in multiple locations - not just your post. I am curious what I am missing.
1) I checked many different days and could not find 1 example where you could even book this type of room on their web site (other than the points option) to see what the cash rate is.
2) The Governor Suite which is significantly larger (1274 vs 1095 sq feet) and also ocean front goes for $1200 / night.
3) The room listed on their web site for $3500 / night is a 2 bedroom suite - not at all what we booked.
1) I checked many different days and could not find 1 example where you could even book this type of room on their web site (other than the points option) to see what the cash rate is.
2) The Governor Suite which is significantly larger (1274 vs 1095 sq feet) and also ocean front goes for $1200 / night.
3) The room listed on their web site for $3500 / night is a 2 bedroom suite - not at all what we booked.
My reservation is showing room type "King Premier Timeshare", I suppose it is the 1 king 2 bedrooms suite oceanfront, only other closer option being the 1 king 1 bedroom suite oceanfront, priced at $1200 per night.
Maybe other users can clarify this point if they properly remember what was the real room selection at the time of booking.
#103
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 1,396
Even if this room is for sale at $3000 / night (which I also could not find anywhere) - that rate does not account for the large percentage of rooms that are filled at discounted rates, as upgrades, etc. In this case, it appears that these rooms were filled with Timeshare guests - which is typically very heavily discounted.
I was surprised today that there was no response at all from the hotel or from Hilton, until I realized that with the hotel currently closed they may be slow to respond. In my eyes, the longer they wait to respond, the less reasonable it is for them to cancel. If there is no response in the next couple of days, I will assume the reservation is valid and proceed to book my other travel plans.
Has anyone attempted to contact the hotel and/or Hilton? I don't necessarily suggest it, but if I had a reservation early in July I would want to start planning.
I was surprised today that there was no response at all from the hotel or from Hilton, until I realized that with the hotel currently closed they may be slow to respond. In my eyes, the longer they wait to respond, the less reasonable it is for them to cancel. If there is no response in the next couple of days, I will assume the reservation is valid and proceed to book my other travel plans.
Has anyone attempted to contact the hotel and/or Hilton? I don't necessarily suggest it, but if I had a reservation early in July I would want to start planning.
#104
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: SAT
Programs: AA EXP BA Gold, TK Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AS 100K, QR PLT, SAS Gold, IHG Spire, AMR
Posts: 5,899
Let's make some speculation: giving the fact that more or less 10 units were "on sale" each day from 15th july to 25th march, it makes around 2500 rooms. At about $3000/usd per night it means that this "deal" will generate more or less $7,500.000 in income loss ( I am not considering all the people like me who booked at 41 usd/night, but it will generate around $ 100.000, which is not relevant considering the total amount).
Personally I would be more than happy if they would choose a "democratic" solution by honouring not more than 1 reservation for each name showing under booking details. By doing this I speculate that they will recover at least 50-60% of the income loss and will make most of people really happy about this deal of a lifetime.
Personally I would be more than happy if they would choose a "democratic" solution by honouring not more than 1 reservation for each name showing under booking details. By doing this I speculate that they will recover at least 50-60% of the income loss and will make most of people really happy about this deal of a lifetime.
You are forgetting that hotel rooms, like airline seats, are a perishable commodity. Your example only works if this property has a 100% occupancy rate all the time. The average is closer to 70-75%. The suites, at that price point are much more likely to be empty than a standard room.
It costs Hilton about $17 per day to have that room and clean it. I would argue that the 279 points are pretty meaningless to Hilton, so for this calculation, the room is free.
How many rooms were booked? 2,000? It will cost Hilton $34,000 in actual expenses, which some of which will be offset by incremental F&B income. I understand that the opportunity cost to Hilton is much higher, but we should not use that number.
So in the end, this is not that big of a deal to Hilton, other than substantial egg on their IT department
#105
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: FCO
Posts: 249
Hi Deltaheater and thanks for your reply, I am not a native English speaker so maybe I have not used the proper words. I just wanted to say that their potential total loss, supposing they will have a theorical 100% occupation rate at $ 3500/night, would rose various millions. It's like the UA Danish first class mistake fare, supposing a various millions loss if they would have a 100% occupation on all flight booked at a mistake fare.
You stated that the expenses for Hilton would be around $ 35,000 and I agree with your calculation, I just tried to calculate the potential income loss which is another (difficult) and abstract calculation. Suppose 2000 rooms averaging $400/night makes a loss in incomes of $ 800,000 which is not financially irrelevant.
In any case I hope they will consider your point of view and will honour the deal, considering also the positive image they wil receive for their newly renovated hotel.
You stated that the expenses for Hilton would be around $ 35,000 and I agree with your calculation, I just tried to calculate the potential income loss which is another (difficult) and abstract calculation. Suppose 2000 rooms averaging $400/night makes a loss in incomes of $ 800,000 which is not financially irrelevant.
In any case I hope they will consider your point of view and will honour the deal, considering also the positive image they wil receive for their newly renovated hotel.