Does a Property Know How You Received Your Diamond Status?
#31
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: ORD
Programs: United Premier Silver, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 85
IME 7-figure points balances seem to get regular FD staff attention. There are many of us that maintain 7-figure points balances even though we regularly use our points. Very frequent travel, Mutual Fund Accounts, event planning, etc. all add up to significant point earning, and some of us are fortunate enough to benefit from all three opportunities. In our cases, rather than hoarding points (which makes no sense at all), we simply earn points much faster than we can use them at this point in our careers.
If there's one thing I find consistent about Hilton properties is their inconsistency. (Maybe other chains are like this as well, not picking on Hilton.) Some hotels have really great staff across the board, others, not so much. Most will thank you for your Diamond loyalty now, which has changed from a few years ago. I never go into a hotel expecting or even looking for anything other than I booked, a clean, quiet room with a comfortable bed. When an upgrade comes it's a bonus. I have had FDC mention my point balance, and maybe make a comment, but never got the idea it ever led to any better treatment. If a comment is made I will tell them they are my "retirement points". All in all I am happy with the Hilton brand of hotels and the Hilton Honors program.
#32
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
That's definitely the kind of greeting I'm more used to getting, as opposed to the fancy front-desk ones that the high-rollers further upthread are describing. Though one property really went the extra mile - they gave another guest keys to my room and sent him to greet me while I was in the shower. Surprise!
#33
Join Date: Jan 2018
Programs: Hilton Gold & IHG Gold
Posts: 13
#35
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: DCA; BDL
Programs: AA EXP; HH Diamond; SPG/Mar Platinum; UA Silver
Posts: 17
As noted in several posts in this forum over the years, FD staff is often impressed by high points balances (200k points doesn't really fall into that category) rather than by other factors that should count more. FD staff is often not well-versed in the program, may be new to the hospitality industry, or is just impressed by a very large number of points. Doesn't really matter why...this is indeed the reality at many properties (again, verified here many times) even though it shouldn't be a factor.
#36
Join Date: Jan 2018
Programs: Hilton Gold & IHG Gold
Posts: 13
I guess maybe. I crossed 2 million active Hilton points in my account in June and am currently at 71 nights for 2018 and I almost never get upgraded at those Hilton family hotels for which upgrades are a published benefit. I almost always do get diamond acknowledgment and I get the other normal benefits, but, at least for me, my loyalty to Hilton and (I presume) comparatively high point balance has certainly not resulted in "better" treatment than I what I expect other diamonds are getting.
#38
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: DCA; BDL
Programs: AA EXP; HH Diamond; SPG/Mar Platinum; UA Silver
Posts: 17
Yes. I know. I've always been a bit of a stick in the mud about that (it really kind of galls me to have to ask for hotels to honor a published benefit (and yes, I realize an accusation could be made that I'm cutting off my nose to spite my face)).
But anyway, the data point that is my experience with Hilton supports a thesis that even a high point balance and a solid amount of recent activity doesn't appear to change this fact about Hilton-family properties.
But anyway, the data point that is my experience with Hilton supports a thesis that even a high point balance and a solid amount of recent activity doesn't appear to change this fact about Hilton-family properties.
#39
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Between DCA and IAD
Programs: UA 1K MM; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 67,138
I have had them fail to provide an upgrade, and its annoying when that happens, but I don't class (particularly suite) upgrades in the same category as standard benefits like breakfast, high-speed internet, etc. The only real time I wanted to raise a stink was when the FD claimed, when I inquired, that there were no suites available, yet they were still selling several at discounted rates at the time. (I've come to realize that particular property gives you exactly what you booked, no more, no less, regardless of status; I thus directed my business to another Hilton property in that city the past few times I've been there.)
I have almost always been greeted with "welcome back." A few times I've been asked if I have stayed at the property before, but find this far outweighed by them automatically offering the greeting... and I've had to dig into the old noggin a few times to remember when it actually was that I'd stayed there before (sometimes 4-5 years previously). These days, I am an Amex Diamond member (have been for the past 3 years, after hitting it on stays the prior several years), and honestly have never felt the FD staff had any clue how status was earned.
#40
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: LAS ORD
Programs: AA Pro (mostly B6) OZ♦ (flying BR/UA), BA Silver Hyatt LT, Wynn Black, Cosmo Plat, Mlife Noir
Posts: 5,992
FT'ers overreacting as usual (just like with the star rating system). Point balance gets noticed by FD agents simply because it's one of the things that is highly visible in the OnQ interface, but no property I've ever worked with/at ever emphasized that at all (much less made it policy), much less over status.
As for OP's question: Detailed report of any guest's stay history across HH is easily accessible via OnQ, so if a property wants to know how a guest got status, they can figure it out. The pragmatic answer is that no one cares enough.
As for OP's question: Detailed report of any guest's stay history across HH is easily accessible via OnQ, so if a property wants to know how a guest got status, they can figure it out. The pragmatic answer is that no one cares enough.
#41
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,872
FT'ers overreacting as usual (just like with the star rating system). Point balance gets noticed by FD agents simply because it's one of the things that is highly visible in the OnQ interface, but no property I've ever worked with/at ever emphasized that at all (much less made it policy), much less over status.
#42
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,065
I've been extremely happy that I got mine. If you're able to use all the credits, you'll come out way ahead.
The SPG Luxury has credits that are easier to use, but the Aspire has so much value if you can use the resort and airline credits, along with the weekend night.
I recently redeemed my weekend night at a Curio collection hotel in Paris. The rate was over $450 euros, though I would've never paid that much.
Hope you are equally pleased when you start using yours.
The SPG Luxury has credits that are easier to use, but the Aspire has so much value if you can use the resort and airline credits, along with the weekend night.
I recently redeemed my weekend night at a Curio collection hotel in Paris. The rate was over $450 euros, though I would've never paid that much.
Hope you are equally pleased when you start using yours.