YouTuber kicked out of Boca Raton Resort on NYE
Jan 2, 2018, 11:56 pm
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Doesn't appear to be anything else. If his so called "biggest stunt" was to take place on NYE, one would have expected his camera crew to be at the hotel (which they weren't).
Jan 3, 2018, 1:32 am
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His Twitter post about 24 hours before check-in (according to the timeline on his twitter feed): "New year plans make more gainz and do the biggest stunt ever done." It is still available on twitter (hasn't been deleted)
Doesn't appear to be anything else. If his so called "biggest stunt" was to take place on NYE, one would have expected his camera crew to be at the hotel (which they weren't).
Doesn't appear to be anything else. If his so called "biggest stunt" was to take place on NYE, one would have expected his camera crew to be at the hotel (which they weren't).
Jan 3, 2018, 3:27 am
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How extensive is his usual camera crew? How do you know they were not at the hotel? If you go back and watch the video, right at the beginning, about 30-40 seconds in, he says something like "the hotel wanted to know if I was going to film a prank, and I said 'I don't even have my camera bag - Leo and Paul have my camera bag"...are Leo and Paul his camera crew? Maybe they were all staying at a cheaper hotel and were going to meet up there later.
Prankster aside, he is only human and just as likely as any of us are to take our significant other away to a nice resort for a break from his ‘day job’ during the holidays.
While I think most of his pranks are in poor taste, I think it’s only fair for Vitaly to know where he is and isn’t welcome before he shows up (and where he is welcomed, for him to be allowed to stay unless he does something during that particular stay which warrants removal).
Jan 3, 2018, 8:35 am
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Perhaps, perhaps not. We’ll never know.
Prankster aside, he is only human and just as likely as any of us are to take our significant other away to a nice resort for a break from his ‘day job’ during the holidays.
While I think most of his pranks are in poor taste, I think it’s only fair for Vitaly to know where he is and isn’t welcome before he shows up (and where he is welcomed, for him to be allowed to stay unless he does something during that particular stay which warrants removal).
The hotel gave him a chance but HE REFUSED to speak to the manager to clarify things.
If he (a) did not post that on Twitter or (b) spoke with the manager to clear things up, this might not have happened.
Jan 3, 2018, 9:53 am
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56 new 1* Yelp reviews for January 3 and we're not even halfway through the day. This hotel really needs to get their legal team into action. A lot of the posters are new to Yelp and their post about this property is their lone post on Yelp.
Jan 3, 2018, 10:03 am
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Is this considered libel if they say horrible things about a business that aren't true?
Jan 3, 2018, 10:09 am
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Honestly, I don't know what laws are in play in Florida. I hope there's something on the civil side that can force Yelp to take immediate action in deleting posts that are clearly from posters that have never set foot on the property, particularly those reporting mass infestations of rats and bed bugs.
At the very least the Yelp TOS are being violated and prodding from a law firm may get those enforced more promptly. Yelp even warns about potential liability for false posts.
At the very least the Yelp TOS are being violated and prodding from a law firm may get those enforced more promptly. Yelp even warns about potential liability for false posts.
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Jan 3, 2018, 10:42 am
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Honestly, I don't know what laws are in play in Florida. I hope there's something on the civil side that can force Yelp to take immediate action in deleting posts that are clearly from posters that have never set foot on the property, particularly those reporting mass infestations of rats and bed bugs.
At the very least the Yelp TOS are being violated and prodding from a law firm may get those enforced more promptly. Yelp even warns about potential liability for false posts.
https://www.yelp.com/static?p=tos
At the very least the Yelp TOS are being violated and prodding from a law firm may get those enforced more promptly. Yelp even warns about potential liability for false posts.
https://www.yelp.com/static?p=tos
Jan 3, 2018, 10:56 am
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He was kicked out AFTER posting on Twitter he was planning something big.
The hotel gave him a chance but HE REFUSED to speak to the manager to clarify things.
If he (a) did not post that on Twitter or (b) spoke with the manager to clear things up, this might not have happened.
The hotel gave him a chance but HE REFUSED to speak to the manager to clarify things.
If he (a) did not post that on Twitter or (b) spoke with the manager to clear things up, this might not have happened.
Personally I would not be willing to concede that my right to stay in a hotel room that I paid for hinges on what I post on social media or allowing myself to be interrogated by hotel staff.
Jan 3, 2018, 7:54 pm
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The tweet had been made about 24 hours BEFORE he checked in.
I agree. Not to get OT but this somewhat reminds me of when a WA in Dubai complained about a bunch of Russian models posting bikini photos to social media that were taken while on property. I guess the lesson is that if you’re staying at a WA, it’s best you’re not active on social media?
I'd assume that was "prank" he was referring to on twitter the day before he checked in.
Last edited by Canarsie; Jan 3, 2018 at 11:24 pm Reason: Consolidation.
Jan 3, 2018, 9:49 pm
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Not that it changes anything but when I went back and watched this, I checked out a couple of his others in the past few days. In one of them, Vitaly says "...then we're going overseas for that big stunt in a month or two..."
I'd assume that was "prank" he was referring to on twitter the day before he checked in.
I'd assume that was "prank" he was referring to on twitter the day before he checked in.
i agree they could've refused his reservation, or even check-in
to wake up someone sleeping, invade their privacy, try to interrogate them, call the police, and/or kick them out is unprofessional and bad for business.
this will be a lesson for them. sounds like they may need a new manager.
I actually have a wedding to attend in boca and will not be staying there (this hotel was on my shortlist)
Last edited by Canarsie; Jan 3, 2018 at 11:23 pm Reason: Consolidation.
Jan 4, 2018, 10:14 am
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This thread could be actually a good law course for students. 
At this point it is a waste to determine which side was right and wrong, there are clearly things that both sides handled not so well but neither side underwent any catastrophic moves IMO.
The various opinions of posters here are a good student example too how the concept of law is so different in different cultures. Some things commented and seen in the video would never happen or be considered very differently in my country.
Entertaining!
At this point it is a waste to determine which side was right and wrong, there are clearly things that both sides handled not so well but neither side underwent any catastrophic moves IMO.
The various opinions of posters here are a good student example too how the concept of law is so different in different cultures. Some things commented and seen in the video would never happen or be considered very differently in my country.
Entertaining!
Jan 4, 2018, 10:40 am
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Not a Lawyer... but
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I believe he said it on his video that he refused to answer their call (0:54) and when they came to his room in person with a request to meet with the management (1:00) he closed the door on them.
This was despite the fact that the staff explained the management wanted to speak with him because of his reputation as a prankster and their concerns for the property and other guests.
So it kind of went against his complaint that Police was not necessary (6:50) as he was not violent and if they had just come out and spoke with him, he would have left.
The management (by his own admissions) tried not once but twice but he would not even talk to them.
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I believe he said it on his video that he refused to answer their call (0:54) and when they came to his room in person with a request to meet with the management (1:00) he closed the door on them.
This was despite the fact that the staff explained the management wanted to speak with him because of his reputation as a prankster and their concerns for the property and other guests.
So it kind of went against his complaint that Police was not necessary (6:50) as he was not violent and if they had just come out and spoke with him, he would have left.
The management (by his own admissions) tried not once but twice but he would not even talk to them.