Q: Cost effective way to get 20k HH points
Sep 7, 2017, 6:29 am
#1
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Q: Cost effective way to get 20k HH points
We would like to use HH points for 2 nights stay at a Hilton property - cost 50K each night or US$400 (taxes included). Hubby has got 80K HH points in his account, so we are short 20K points for the 2 nights booking.
Q: What is the most cost effective way to get 20K HH points from other program transfers? We have amex points but not sure whether transfer can be done and the ratio. Buying HH points without bonus is not an option for us. Or, redeem one night and pay cash for the other night?
Thanks in advance.
Q: What is the most cost effective way to get 20K HH points from other program transfers? We have amex points but not sure whether transfer can be done and the ratio. Buying HH points without bonus is not an option for us. Or, redeem one night and pay cash for the other night?
Thanks in advance.
Sep 7, 2017, 6:50 am
#4
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: Aegean Airlines Silver, British Airways Gold, Virgin Atlantic Silver
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where are you based?
In the UK, I'm finding that Tesco to Virgin Atlantic Flying Club to HH is good value.
Remember, you can use Points + Cash for an room that is available for Points
In the UK, I'm finding that Tesco to Virgin Atlantic Flying Club to HH is good value.
Remember, you can use Points + Cash for an room that is available for Points
Last edited by gallagher; Sep 7, 2017 at 6:56 am
Sep 7, 2017, 8:01 am
#5
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Checked Points+Cash for the particular hotel and the dates, and nothing showed for P+C, only points 50K or cash USD 400 (including taxes).
Sep 7, 2017, 8:03 am
#6
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The old good-value P+C is long gone...
Sep 7, 2017, 8:24 am
#9
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Thanks to everyone who mentioned P+C. I had forgotten about it, so had to refresh a bit. Now this looked like a real option for us.
Sep 7, 2017, 11:19 am
#10
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: JFK/LGA
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Unfortunately the new P&C scheme gives relatively poor value against the paid rate. You should use 50k points for one night, and then your remaining 30k points will likely generate ~$100 in credit against the $400 paid rate for the second night, leaving you out of pocket $300. That makes the marginal value to be extracted from the 20k points you seek to be an impressive $0.015 (to get to 50k points for the second night award.)
Sep 7, 2017, 12:28 pm
#11
Join Date: Mar 2009
Programs: Hilton credit card Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
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Hilton sells points for 1 cent apiece (and occasionally even cheaper). Given pauleeepaul's analysis, it would be better to buy the 20000 points for $200, rather than using the points and cash rate for the second night.
Sep 7, 2017, 1:30 pm
#12
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Francisco
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I guess I was reading that it was $400 for both nights. If it is $400 each night, then that's a great redemption value and good value even to transfer from MR (since they would be getting approx. $300 from a 10000 MR transfer).
Sep 7, 2017, 2:18 pm
#13
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However, Yllanes suggested better value maybe had with MR transfer. For 10K MR points we will get 20K HH points - saving us the cash.
Sep 7, 2017, 2:25 pm
#14
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Francisco
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79k+$171 is much better than buying the missing points (not only cheaper, but you will get points based on the cash part of the booking, so the net cost is less than those $171 and of course you can cancel a booking but not the purchase of points).
In this case, I think transferring the 10k MR points is also good value, but of course that's very personal and depends on the opportunities you normally have both to generate and spend those MR points.
In this case, I think transferring the 10k MR points is also good value, but of course that's very personal and depends on the opportunities you normally have both to generate and spend those MR points.
Sep 7, 2017, 2:34 pm
#15
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Sign up for the Hilton Barclaycard and if you can hit the spend target soon enough for your trip you can get the free night voucher which would pay for one night.
Very cost effective as it will be free if the timing works out.
Very cost effective as it will be free if the timing works out.