fozziedoggie

Apologies if this link has already been posted in this thread:

http://hiltonhonors3.hilton.com/en/e...-card-faq.html

mikesyr18

I believe Citi is devaluing AA as a whole. Like you said, the Prestige card is losing Admirals club access next month and lowering the value of points to 1.25 cents each. You have to admit the current Prestige-AA rewards value was/is almost too good to last.

The card itself is doing well, though. Citi recently added Jet Blue at 1000 TY to 800 TB when compared to 1000: 500 on the ThankYou Preferred. The ThankYou cards are the only other non-AMEX outside of Barclays that transfers to True Blue that I know of. There was also another partner that was added recently (forgot the name though).

I have the ThankYou Premier for a few reasons:

1) Transfers to Jet Blue (doesn't exist with Chase).
2) Automated Price Rewind Feature
3) Balance reflects immediately after payment
4) Trip cancellation protection (doesn't exist on AMEX).


I've said it before, some people may find Chase's partners as a better group, but I would only get value out of Hyatt. If I lived closer to an airport that had Southwest airlines as a partner, that would be useful too.

When it comes to Hilton Honors, I believe the rewards program itself is flexible enough across multiple issuers where they'll stay with Citi as a transfer partner.

fozziedoggie

Why would Citi remain a transfer partner with HHonors after this move? Would it still make sense for Citi

stanj

That's my gripe, too. I almost pulled the trigger on the upgrade bonus, but ultimately didn't. I still have an upgrade offer, but at 75K instead of 100K.

If I had known, I would have gone for it before 5/31.

Hilton Honors Ambassador

Hi agprint,

Hoping this better helps answer your question. If you spend the $10K to meet the qualifications, you will get your certificate even if the delivery comes after January 1, 2018...you'll then have 12 months to use it.

Thanks!
Lauren

Hilton Honors Ambassador

Hi 236Dakota,

Correct, if you meet the spend requirements this year, you would attain Diamond status through March 31, 2019.

Let me know if that makes sense!
Lauren

Hilton Honors Ambassador

Hi ab12345,

It's a good question - one that I unfortunately do not know the answer to at this time. If I hear any updates, I'll be sure to share on the thread.

Thanks,
Lauren

Mystic92

Hey, by the way, did anyone mention NO FTF - just kidding but that is the deal breaker for me. Card will sit in the safe while I am off to Europe.
I can do without the free night cause I can easily earn one but the fees are the deal breaker.

Thanks
Mystic

mikesyr18

For the same reasons AMEX and JetBlue still remain transfer partners despite JetBlue moving to Barclaycard. It is better to have more transfer partners for your customers to use.

BrlDsguise

Well I guess it comes at a good time for me. I dropped the Amex Surpass last year, met the $10k spending on the Citi Reserve, used almost all of my points on upcoming trips, and have diamond status through March 2018. I'm using my Capital One Venture card now for most of my spending so effectively my 10 year Hilton relationship will come to an end. Without a Hilton card I won't earn enough points to make it worthwhile to go out of my way to stay at Hiltons. It was a fun ride, I've earned and spent millions of points over the years and had 30+ stays a couple of years, all on leisure.

sdsearch

Amex is not accepted everywhere. One of the things that makes the HH Amex worse than the HH Citi Visa is that Visa is accepted way more places.

Are you saying that you think it's possible the Amex will offer an HH Visa card? Only that would solve that issue!

Eujeanie

I have a wide variety of cards (as I'm sure most of you do) - all have different features and bonus categories. I think I'm evenly divided between Amex and V/MC. I've got a little cheat sheet in my wallet: Use this one: Supermarkets, not Costco This one: Gas, not Costco. This one: Costco and Costco gas. This one: Restaurants This one: rental cars. This one: Airline tickets. And on and on. That way I max out on everything I buy. Many (not all) have annual fees, but the only ones I keep with AF's are the ones that an annual bonus (extra points, free hotel stays, companion airfare, etc.) more than pay for the annual fee.

The sky didn't fall when Costco switched from Amex to Visa, and the sky won't fall when Hilton switches from Visa to Amex.

I do feel for those who travel internationally with Hilton, and don't want to pay FTF's (I think these are the ONLY people who are directly affected)...but you'll still get your Hilton points for your stay, and you can get credit card points on whatever card you have that doesn't have FTFs (Marriott in my case, also my Marriott card provides my travel insurance).

I know this is a simplistic post, but I can't believe how people are making such a big deal out of the change...change happens, just roll with it.

Abidjan

Having both, will be interesting to see how this plays out. No worry about Forex as I use Chase Reserve aboard. Would love Amex to bring back the AXON option. (4 nights for 145,000 would be grand; I can dream).

jamesteroh

+1 Visa is accepted at a lot more places. Yesterday I had a few business charges to make and am trying to get my spend in on my Delta Am Ex for the MQM boost. Two of the vendors said they didn't accept Am Ex and those two charges totaled around $6,500. That makes a huge dent into the $60K spend I need for the extra boosts and would make up almost 15% of the minimum $40K spend for Hilton diamond status. Those two charges went on my Citi 2% cash back but would have gone to Am Ex if they accepted the card.

And I understand small businesses not wanting an account with Am Ex. Their transaction fees are pretty high and most people with an Am Ex have a mastercard of visa.

I know there's others on here besides me who use Delta as their main airline and use the Am Ex card for MQM boosts for status. Will make it more difficult to get Hilton spend in seeing how many places don't accept Am Ex.

Hopefully Am Ex will issue new cards to the Citi holders and buy their portfolio and give some nice offers to card holders that switch like they did with the NWA cardholders when Am Ex bought Northwest

sdsearch

Huh? I had a NW Worldperks card, and it remained a US Bank card, turned into a Flexperks card (yuck). Did some people's US Bank NWA cards get automatically replaced with Amex Delta cards??? That's what "buying their portfolio" would mean IMHO.

Ie, I experiencef that when some obscure bank with "First" in the name bought the Best Western card accounts from Barclay. My Barclay card was automatically replaced with a First Whatever bank card that had the exact same credit limit. (The problem is that it had a much worse earning structure, so after a few months I stopped using it even for Best Western stays.)

OTOH, when Amtrak left Chase for another bank, there was no transfer of portfolio. Chase transitioned everyone with the Amtrak Guest Rewards card (there was only one at the time, with no AF) to Chase Freedom.

Now, when Continental merged with United, that was much simpler, because both were with Chase, and so Chase was just able to morph CO cards into UA cards.