Disputing a Mileage Charge
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Disputing a Mileage Charge
Last week I rented a car from the President's Circle at AUS and returned it to their location at SAT four days later. When my company made the reservation, I noted something about a mileage fee, which seemed odd because I can't recall the last time that I've seen one of those. And, in hindsight, I should have followed up then and there, but I was lazy.
Upon returning the car at SAT, I elected to have my receipt sent me via e-mail. So it was only in looking at the receipt post-security while waiting for my flight that I realized that the starting mileage on the odometer, ending mileage and -- most importantly -- the amount driven during my rental were all totally wrong! The license plate number included on the receipt is correct. I recall the odometer reading when I picked up the car. And, although I don't remember the reading when I dropped it off, I calculated that I drove 180 miles using Googlemaps. This receipt indicates that I drove 850 miles. Not cool. And, as I said, I was already airside and don't have evidence to back up my side of the story.
So I called Hertz last Friday to dispute the charge. There was no immediate resolution, but the phone agent said that he had opened up a ticket and were looking into whether or not I should have been charged a mileage fee in the first place. When I asked him what might happen if the issue came down not to whether I should have been assessed a fee but rather the amount, he didn't have much of an answer for me. Let's just say that I was feeling less-than-encouraged.
Has anyone had a similar experience with Hertz? Does anyone know what I should expect from them? In the end, I'll get reimbursed fully by my company. So I'm not worried about that, but this has been a pretty annoying experience.
Upon returning the car at SAT, I elected to have my receipt sent me via e-mail. So it was only in looking at the receipt post-security while waiting for my flight that I realized that the starting mileage on the odometer, ending mileage and -- most importantly -- the amount driven during my rental were all totally wrong! The license plate number included on the receipt is correct. I recall the odometer reading when I picked up the car. And, although I don't remember the reading when I dropped it off, I calculated that I drove 180 miles using Googlemaps. This receipt indicates that I drove 850 miles. Not cool. And, as I said, I was already airside and don't have evidence to back up my side of the story.
So I called Hertz last Friday to dispute the charge. There was no immediate resolution, but the phone agent said that he had opened up a ticket and were looking into whether or not I should have been charged a mileage fee in the first place. When I asked him what might happen if the issue came down not to whether I should have been assessed a fee but rather the amount, he didn't have much of an answer for me. Let's just say that I was feeling less-than-encouraged.
Has anyone had a similar experience with Hertz? Does anyone know what I should expect from them? In the end, I'll get reimbursed fully by my company. So I'm not worried about that, but this has been a pretty annoying experience.
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The mileage was probably recorded incorrectly when you checked the car out and/or back in. They may be able to figure it out based on their previous/next renter, but this is probably one of those situations where, unless you get a good customer service rep who is willing to do some digging, I fear it's going to be a tough row to hoe.
Follow-up and persistence are probably going to be key here, and in the end, it may come down to how much time and effort you want to invest given that your company will reimburse in any case. Just trying to be realistic and manage your expectations here.
Follow-up and persistence are probably going to be key here, and in the end, it may come down to how much time and effort you want to invest given that your company will reimburse in any case. Just trying to be realistic and manage your expectations here.
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FWIW, I always verify the odometer reading (and the fuel level) when I pick up a rental car. If a do not have a vehicle-specific rental agreement, I take a photo of the odometer reading with my phone.
Upon return of the car, I always take a photo showing the odometer reading and fuel level.
I have had a couple of unlimited-mileage rentals where the starting odometer reading did not match the number on the contract; this can result from a simple human error of transposing two digits when the previous rental was returned -- sometimes by a rental-company employee, and sometimes by the renter himself, at locations where no employee verifies the mileage upon return. Example: actual mileage 19922; erroneously-recorded mileage 19292.
Upon return of the car, I always take a photo showing the odometer reading and fuel level.
I have had a couple of unlimited-mileage rentals where the starting odometer reading did not match the number on the contract; this can result from a simple human error of transposing two digits when the previous rental was returned -- sometimes by a rental-company employee, and sometimes by the renter himself, at locations where no employee verifies the mileage upon return. Example: actual mileage 19922; erroneously-recorded mileage 19292.
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I have had a couple of unlimited-mileage rentals where the starting odometer reading did not match the number on the contract; this can result from a simple human error of transposing two digits when the previous rental was returned -- sometimes by a rental-company employee, and sometimes by the renter himself, at locations where no employee verifies the mileage upon return. Example: actual mileage 19922; erroneously-recorded mileage 19292.
Perhaps I should take the effort to call them back to check on the claim today. Maybe I'll get someone a little more willing to listen to the details.
FWIW, I always verify the odometer reading (and the fuel level) when I pick up a rental car. If a do not have a vehicle-specific rental agreement, I take a photo of the odometer reading with my phone.
Upon return of the car, I always take a photo showing the odometer reading and fuel level.
Upon return of the car, I always take a photo showing the odometer reading and fuel level.
Thanks for the responses! ^
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Follow-Up
Things have all been resolved in my favor.
However, it did take finally getting through to someone at the President's Circle desk. Clearly, the first agent didn't understand what my problem was, though I thought I would let his attempt at resolution (dispute the notion that I should have been charged mileage in the first place) work its way through the system. The second agent with whom I spoke seemed to understand my concern a little better ... but he still didn't get it either. What he did do for me, though, was to connect me to the President's Circle desk. (I had been looking for such a direct line, but I hadn't -- and still haven't -- found it posted anywhere.)
The agent at the President's Circle understood my problem within two minutes of giving him my rental reservation number. And it did not take him much more time than that to confirm that the mileage was what I claimed it had been (roughly -- we were off by three miles ). He claimed that his manager would sign off on the revision the next morning and that I would have a new receipt. This would have been Tuesday, January 14th when we spoke. I think I got the revised receipt a little later than that ... Wednesday afternoon. And the refund for the difference has now turned up on my credit card. So, all's well that ends well ...
... except how do I contact the President's Circle desk in the future? I did take down the number, but I'll probably lose it or it could change. Is it posted somewhere on the Hertz site that I couldn't find? Or do people just call the general line and ask to be transferred? One thing is certain: I won't mess around again with the general line unless I have no other choice.
ETA: I will also note that Hertz was pretty proactive in responding to both my negative survey response and in my interaction with the President's Circle desk. I appreciated the attention they paid to my dissatisfaction. That's exactly the kind of thing that helps me get over such mistakes.
However, it did take finally getting through to someone at the President's Circle desk. Clearly, the first agent didn't understand what my problem was, though I thought I would let his attempt at resolution (dispute the notion that I should have been charged mileage in the first place) work its way through the system. The second agent with whom I spoke seemed to understand my concern a little better ... but he still didn't get it either. What he did do for me, though, was to connect me to the President's Circle desk. (I had been looking for such a direct line, but I hadn't -- and still haven't -- found it posted anywhere.)
The agent at the President's Circle understood my problem within two minutes of giving him my rental reservation number. And it did not take him much more time than that to confirm that the mileage was what I claimed it had been (roughly -- we were off by three miles ). He claimed that his manager would sign off on the revision the next morning and that I would have a new receipt. This would have been Tuesday, January 14th when we spoke. I think I got the revised receipt a little later than that ... Wednesday afternoon. And the refund for the difference has now turned up on my credit card. So, all's well that ends well ...
... except how do I contact the President's Circle desk in the future? I did take down the number, but I'll probably lose it or it could change. Is it posted somewhere on the Hertz site that I couldn't find? Or do people just call the general line and ask to be transferred? One thing is certain: I won't mess around again with the general line unless I have no other choice.
ETA: I will also note that Hertz was pretty proactive in responding to both my negative survey response and in my interaction with the President's Circle desk. I appreciated the attention they paid to my dissatisfaction. That's exactly the kind of thing that helps me get over such mistakes.
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Either way, I don't think that Travel would have been as capable or motivated to follow it through to the end as I was. That's just not how they operate.
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Smartphones are handy in that they have a contacts feature to store phone numbers for people/companies you typically call. Put it in there and you'll have it forever.
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I think I was just thrown off by the inaccessibility. For example, United clearly tells me how I can reach the 1K service line on my MileagePlus card. I guess I was hoping to have a handy reference on ... y'know, my Gold Plus card or something.
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Or they’re just keeping it hush hush so that way they don’t get overwhelmed with complaints and “most loyal” customers mad all the time.
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I don't know the number myself (thankfully I've never needed it). It's ridiculous that it is not prominently displayed on the app or on the website when you are logged in. And, as has been said, to avoid "unauthorised" calls they can just prompt you to enter your account number (which is useful in any case so the agent can see your account), as many other companies do.