Guide to and Questions Concerning Connecting thru HNL & other Hawai`i airports
#31
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Honolulu, Hawaiʻi [+MKK4 EBBER R577 EDSEL R577 ELKEY EXERT]
Posts: 15,826
General Information - The Hawai‘i Board Table of Contents
General Information
Best time to visit Hawai‘i?
Best Airline to Hawai‘i (Coach)?
Thanksgiving in OGG or HNL?
Some advise for choosing an island?
A month in Hawai‘i
Honeymooning in Hawai‘i Help Needed
going to Hawai‘i for the first time need help
Weather In Hawai‘i End Of August Beg Of September
How would you do Hawai‘i in seven days?
3 Island 7 Day Hawai‘i Survey Trip
I need advice for my first ever Hawai‘i trip!
Hawai‘i Trip – Lāna‘i, Big Island, Kaua‘i (long.....)
Basic questions re: first-time travel to Hawai‘i
First timer too - questions
Help on Hawai‘i
O‘ahu:
On a "day trip" from O‘ahu, which island would you choose and what would you do there?
Time on O‘ahu vs. Maui
Visiting and Living on O‘ahu
Maui:
Help with Maui
The Big Island:
Kona - what is new in Kona, or in the island of Hawai‘i, over the last 10 years.
Jeep or convertable for Big Island?
HILO Hawai‘i for a couple days - what to do - where to stay - how to see volcano!
Kaua‘i:
OK I picked Kaua‘i
The best of Kaua‘i.....your thoughts please
Kaua‘i for 6 days
Lāna‘i and Moloka‘i
Thoughts on Lāna‘i and Moloka‘i
Best time to visit Hawai‘i?
Best Airline to Hawai‘i (Coach)?
Thanksgiving in OGG or HNL?
Some advise for choosing an island?
A month in Hawai‘i
Honeymooning in Hawai‘i Help Needed
going to Hawai‘i for the first time need help
Weather In Hawai‘i End Of August Beg Of September
How would you do Hawai‘i in seven days?
3 Island 7 Day Hawai‘i Survey Trip
I need advice for my first ever Hawai‘i trip!
Hawai‘i Trip – Lāna‘i, Big Island, Kaua‘i (long.....)
Basic questions re: first-time travel to Hawai‘i
First timer too - questions
Help on Hawai‘i
O‘ahu:
On a "day trip" from O‘ahu, which island would you choose and what would you do there?
Time on O‘ahu vs. Maui
Visiting and Living on O‘ahu
Maui:
Help with Maui
The Big Island:
Kona - what is new in Kona, or in the island of Hawai‘i, over the last 10 years.
Jeep or convertable for Big Island?
HILO Hawai‘i for a couple days - what to do - where to stay - how to see volcano!
Kaua‘i:
OK I picked Kaua‘i
The best of Kaua‘i.....your thoughts please
Kaua‘i for 6 days
Lāna‘i and Moloka‘i
Thoughts on Lāna‘i and Moloka‘i
Last edited by slippahs; Aug 8, 2004 at 10:17 pm
#32
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Southern California
Programs: DL: 3.8 MM, Marriott: Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 24,575
Another point to make here that I have not seen mentioned. Aloha and Hawaiian are notoriously stingy on interisland baggage weights. I think the max is 50# per bag and above that you get hit with a penalty. So make sure if you have two or more bags that you split the stuff as evenly as possible to avoid the 50$# per bag weight limit.
#34
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: msp
Programs: DL Plat, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 798
mahalo
thanks for this great info! we just visited two weeks ago.
one note - Hawaiian appears to be charging stand-by fees on all flights now, regardless of fare class. we were on full Y tickets ($210 each) and they still wanted $25 to standby on an earlier flight!
on another note - we wanted miles to post to worldperks - worked for 1 flight (500 + 250 eqm bonus and a segment) but other flight did not post. however, they took our boarding passes as we went down the jetway, so is there any way to retroactively request wp credit?
one note - Hawaiian appears to be charging stand-by fees on all flights now, regardless of fare class. we were on full Y tickets ($210 each) and they still wanted $25 to standby on an earlier flight!
on another note - we wanted miles to post to worldperks - worked for 1 flight (500 + 250 eqm bonus and a segment) but other flight did not post. however, they took our boarding passes as we went down the jetway, so is there any way to retroactively request wp credit?
#35
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Honolulu, Hawaiʻi [+MKK4 EBBER R577 EDSEL R577 ELKEY EXERT]
Posts: 15,826
Originally Posted by curl
thanks for this great info! we just visited two weeks ago.
one note - Hawaiian appears to be charging stand-by fees on all flights now, regardless of fare class. we were on full Y tickets ($210 each) and they still wanted $25 to standby on an earlier flight!
on another note - we wanted miles to post to worldperks - worked for 1 flight (500 + 250 eqm bonus and a segment) but other flight did not post. however, they took our boarding passes as we went down the jetway, so is there any way to retroactively request wp credit?
one note - Hawaiian appears to be charging stand-by fees on all flights now, regardless of fare class. we were on full Y tickets ($210 each) and they still wanted $25 to standby on an earlier flight!
on another note - we wanted miles to post to worldperks - worked for 1 flight (500 + 250 eqm bonus and a segment) but other flight did not post. however, they took our boarding passes as we went down the jetway, so is there any way to retroactively request wp credit?
It might take longer for the inter-island leg to post, but unfortunately, in order to get retroactive credit from a partner with Northwest, you need the boarding pass stub. Hawaiian usually takes the boarding pass stub to make boarding faster but I always make sure to tear the stub off before handing it to the agent or asking the agent to tear the stub for me. It still wouldn't hurt to give WorldPerks a call after a week or so to see if they can grant you an extension with the ticket number.
Let us know how it goes.
aloha
#36
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: OKC
Posts: 906
curl: I've had Hawaiian post miles to AAdvantage on the basis of an email identifying flights, dates and FF account numbers. Only took a few days once I made the request.
Slippahs: did you decide to "unStick" this thread?
Confirmed for 8/20-27/05 at Kauai Coast Resort at the Beachboy and 8/27 - 9/02 at Kona Coast Resort 2 ... now all I gotta do is count the days and wait for decent airfare.
Slippahs: did you decide to "unStick" this thread?
Confirmed for 8/20-27/05 at Kauai Coast Resort at the Beachboy and 8/27 - 9/02 at Kona Coast Resort 2 ... now all I gotta do is count the days and wait for decent airfare.
#37
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Honolulu, Hawaiʻi [+MKK4 EBBER R577 EDSEL R577 ELKEY EXERT]
Posts: 15,826
Originally Posted by Deacon
curl: I've had Hawaiian post miles to AAdvantage on the basis of an email identifying flights, dates and FF account numbers. Only took a few days once I made the request.
Slippahs: did you decide to "unStick" this thread?
Confirmed for 8/20-27/05 at Kauai Coast Resort at the Beachboy and 8/27 - 9/02 at Kona Coast Resort 2 ... now all I gotta do is count the days and wait for decent airfare.
Slippahs: did you decide to "unStick" this thread?
Confirmed for 8/20-27/05 at Kauai Coast Resort at the Beachboy and 8/27 - 9/02 at Kona Coast Resort 2 ... now all I gotta do is count the days and wait for decent airfare.
aloha
#38
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: msp
Programs: DL Plat, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 798
going to try to get credit with a receipt and ticket number.
being a flyertalk addict, i gave them my worldperk number in the reservation, in HNL, in OGG, at EVERY step, to be sure that i was getting credit. in hnl though, they told mr. curl that his number was already in there, so they didn't re-enter it. of course, now he's not getting credit for that leg. but we're going to try to see if they'll take care of it for us without the BP. i mean we had to get to OGG somehow (to be able to fly the return), right??
being a flyertalk addict, i gave them my worldperk number in the reservation, in HNL, in OGG, at EVERY step, to be sure that i was getting credit. in hnl though, they told mr. curl that his number was already in there, so they didn't re-enter it. of course, now he's not getting credit for that leg. but we're going to try to see if they'll take care of it for us without the BP. i mean we had to get to OGG somehow (to be able to fly the return), right??
#39
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Hershey, PA
Posts: 25
62 min. enough at HNL?
I read in the FAQ post that anywhere from 30-60min is sufficient connection time in HNL.
However, long story short, I was on the phone with Expedia tonight and they informed me that my first flight back home was bumped back a little later. Now I'll be arriving in HNL @ 9:08PM and departing @ 10:10PM... 62min. Which personally, seemed just fine to me. However, she was kind of pressuring me to change my Aloha flight to a different one 3 hours earlier as a 75min. connection time is required for HNL. Normally I wouldn't care but I don't wanna give up 3 hours on the big island in exchange for 3 hours sittin in HNL! Thankfully she couldn't get in touch with Aloha to make the change and gave me a reference # to call back. I asked if I could just hold off swapping that flight and she said yes, but I'm gonna get hit with a penalty fee if I miss the Delta back to LAX.
Is it worth the risk to just keep my flights how they are? How much would this penalty fee be about? The trip is the end of October, so chances are everythings gonna change again by then anyways!
However, long story short, I was on the phone with Expedia tonight and they informed me that my first flight back home was bumped back a little later. Now I'll be arriving in HNL @ 9:08PM and departing @ 10:10PM... 62min. Which personally, seemed just fine to me. However, she was kind of pressuring me to change my Aloha flight to a different one 3 hours earlier as a 75min. connection time is required for HNL. Normally I wouldn't care but I don't wanna give up 3 hours on the big island in exchange for 3 hours sittin in HNL! Thankfully she couldn't get in touch with Aloha to make the change and gave me a reference # to call back. I asked if I could just hold off swapping that flight and she said yes, but I'm gonna get hit with a penalty fee if I miss the Delta back to LAX.
Is it worth the risk to just keep my flights how they are? How much would this penalty fee be about? The trip is the end of October, so chances are everythings gonna change again by then anyways!
#40
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Honolulu, Hawaiʻi [+MKK4 EBBER R577 EDSEL R577 ELKEY EXERT]
Posts: 15,826
With DL's new Simplifares, I believe (though someone can correct me if I'm wrong) that the change fee is $50 (rather than $100). If it were me, personally, I'd just keep the original flights, but it's all up to you and how much of a risk taker you are. Till October, however, there might be a good chance that Aloha's flight schedule will change (without any notice to you) and either make the connection tighter or freer.
#42
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Astoria, NY: LGA, JFK
Programs: Delta PM; Sheraton's Vistana BOD; SPG Gold
Posts: 2,035
Just discovered that HA had a schedule change, making my flight from OGG 1/2 hour later and making my connection time with NW in HNL at about sixty minutes. The HA flight was an award flight so I called NW. Since it was a schedule change by HA, they moved me up to the previous HA flight and waived the $50 fee. If they had not waived the fee, my wife and I would have sprinted from the InterIsland terminal to the main terminal. After all, we now need our $$$ to buy food on NW!
Last edited by yogimax; Apr 30, 2005 at 6:43 pm
#43
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Honolulu, Hawaiʻi [+MKK4 EBBER R577 EDSEL R577 ELKEY EXERT]
Posts: 15,826
Originally Posted by yogimax
Just discovered that HA had a schedule change, making my flight from OGG 1/2 hour later and making my connection time with NW in HNL at about sixty minutes. The HA flight was an award flight so I called NW. Since it was a schedule change by HA, they moved me up to the previous HA flight and waived the $50 fee. If they had not waived the fee, my wife and I would have sprinted from the InterIsland terminal to the main terminal. After all, we now need our $$$ to buy food on NW!
#44
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Traveling the World
Posts: 6,072
It's the booking site responsibility
If Expedia booked you on those flights it is their responsibility to fix it without cost to you. The airline schedules change and you are entitled to the same itineray. Maybe you could score a free night in HNL should you miss the flight. Call Expedia if you miss the flight and have them book you a hotel. Insist you don't owe anymore money because the ticket was booked to make the codeshare connection.
#45
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Bellevue, WA, USA
Posts: 253
An hour should be ok for the connection.
Personally I think that HA and AQ try to force a long connection for your transfer from HNL to the outer island so they can hit you with a fee to standby on an earlier flight. I hate the attitude that visitors are walking ATMs.
Personally I think that HA and AQ try to force a long connection for your transfer from HNL to the outer island so they can hit you with a fee to standby on an earlier flight. I hate the attitude that visitors are walking ATMs.