2021 Onwards - Consolidated "F/J/C to/from Hawaii - Questions & Observations" Thread
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I am always looking to go DL as my first choice and am sitting on a ton of travel credits and SkyBonus points I need to start using, but sometimes, DL just doesn't work. Good that you are open to other possibilities.
I find that given the travel time and time difference, I'm not willing to do more than one connection to Hawaii in a single day. LIH is a relatively small market and also has a short runway so the longest non-stop would be UA out of DEN. The wild card would be Hawaiian's new MCO-HNL non-stop that just started.
I find that given the travel time and time difference, I'm not willing to do more than one connection to Hawaii in a single day. LIH is a relatively small market and also has a short runway so the longest non-stop would be UA out of DEN. The wild card would be Hawaiian's new MCO-HNL non-stop that just started.
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Being FlyerTalk, we all try to maximize the hard product, even if it means flying longer. But, your option one sounds the most reasonable, as it gets you to Kauai directly without having to jump through the COVID gauntlet twice (once in HNL, then another in LIH).
A tight connection in SLC is not fun, especially if Delta schedules the flights at different terminals (Its about a 10 minute walk).
If you truly want to maximize the hard product FC experience, willing to fly longer in order to get lay flat options, with cost in mind, as other posters have said, then look at other carriers: AA out of DFW/ORD, UA out of SFO/ORD, HA LAS/JFK. AA has been the best price wise when I've been booking, but has gone up two to three folds this month on certain days.
A tight connection in SLC is not fun, especially if Delta schedules the flights at different terminals (Its about a 10 minute walk).
If you truly want to maximize the hard product FC experience, willing to fly longer in order to get lay flat options, with cost in mind, as other posters have said, then look at other carriers: AA out of DFW/ORD, UA out of SFO/ORD, HA LAS/JFK. AA has been the best price wise when I've been booking, but has gone up two to three folds this month on certain days.
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Another vote to fly direct into LIH from the mainland. A double-connection is painful enough, but with presumably still COVID restrictions it is even worse.
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Or maybe Delta will revive the dreaded 767 2x2x2 domestic FC seats with the super small 1990's screens for the SLC-HNL again. One positive out of COVID, is that Delta has provided better hard product equipped planes for HNL routes. Currently on an A330-200 with herring bone configuration, for a typical 757 SEA-HNL route.
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Alternatively, this could be a golden opportunity depending on risk tolerance/acceptability of the alternate should this not work out. But if you have a flight that you're pretty sure is going to be changed, booking that now, then letting the schedule change break the connection could give OP the golden ticket to change routing via MSP or ATL for free.
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Alternatively, this could be a golden opportunity depending on risk tolerance/acceptability of the alternate should this not work out. But if you have a flight that you're pretty sure is going to be changed, booking that now, then letting the schedule change break the connection could give OP the golden ticket to change routing via MSP or ATL for free.
(29 min connection is illegal)
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This is how I booked me and mother on ATL-HNL both directions. Booked via LAX originally knowing 3+ months out schedule would change.
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The drive from TPA to MCO is brutal with I-4 traffic almost always being backed up for miles when leaving Tampa and again when coming into Orlando near Disney. I’d rather just deal with standard domestic F out of TPA than deal with that awful drive while trying to make a flight.
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My recommendation, consider AA unless you're able to get the A330 or 767 via ATL or MSP. On the return out of KOA on DL, you'll only be able to go via ATL or MSP if you go via HNL. If you try to do KOA-LAX, it'll be a standard domestic F seat on DL. AA runs the 777 and 787 via DFW to both HNL and KOA (as well as OGG) which will come with lie-flats This will make a huge difference on the redeye return, whereas out of KOA on DL, you'll get a DL aircraft with a standard domestic F seat unless you're willing to go via HNL and then get a flight to ATL or MSP with the A330 or 767 with lie-flats (or maybe via SLC but that is not guaranteed to be DL One and even if showing an aircraft type with lie-flats, there could be a schedule change between now and then to an aircraft with non-lie-flats). As you note later in the thread, the ATL and MSP routings, especially the returns, usually command a steep premium. Conversely, AA F is often reasonably priced.
I see TPA-DFW-HNL on AA in the $2,000 RT range, with DFW-HNL-DFW on 1-2-1 configuration 789. As low as $1,767 with Amex Insider Fares.
And, unlike DL, AA serves real meals and full drink menu... with ice.
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Thank you for all the suggestions.
I am ready to book the following in First Class:
7/3: TPA>SLC>SEA>LIH (737-900ER, 737-800, 757)
7/19: KOA>LAX>TPA (757, 737-900)
The price per person is $1,888 which seems decent. Other Delta itineraries and other airlines are much more $$$.
I am ready to book the following in First Class:
7/3: TPA>SLC>SEA>LIH (737-900ER, 737-800, 757)
7/19: KOA>LAX>TPA (757, 737-900)
The price per person is $1,888 which seems decent. Other Delta itineraries and other airlines are much more $$$.
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We are changing our Hawaii trip from July to September. The likely dates are 9/9 from TPA>LIH and 9/26 from KOA>TPA, however we are flexible in our dates. Now it is only my wife and I as our son will be in college. Flying first class preferably on Delta. It appears that 757's are primarily the options for the long hauls and nothing with Delta One seating. If anyone sees anything better, I would love to hear it.
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We are changing our Hawaii trip from July to September. The likely dates are 9/9 from TPA>LIH and 9/26 from KOA>TPA, however we are flexible in our dates. Now it is only my wife and I as our son will be in college. Flying first class preferably on Delta. It appears that 757's are primarily the options for the long hauls and nothing with Delta One seating. If anyone sees anything better, I would love to hear it.
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We are changing our Hawaii trip from July to September. The likely dates are 9/9 from TPA>LIH and 9/26 from KOA>TPA, however we are flexible in our dates. Now it is only my wife and I as our son will be in college. Flying first class preferably on Delta. It appears that 757's are primarily the options for the long hauls and nothing with Delta One seating. If anyone sees anything better, I would love to hear it.
We have tickets booked for Thanksgiving for LIH-MCI, we were originally booked on the cheapest LIH-LAX-MCI option, our schedule changed recently and instead of the the LIH-LAX-MCI (with a much longer layover in LAX) itinerary they switched us to, I was able to switch to LIH-HNL-SLC-MCI on the website, with the HNL-SLC flight on a flat bed aircraft (for now of course, everything's subject to change), that flight was much more expensive to book when I booked our tickets, but I had no problem switching to it with the schedule change. I was not able to switch to HNL-ATL by the online system, I did not try calling in to do it either.
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Book the cheapest possible option and between now and September you will most likely have the opportunity to change your flights to an alternative (more expensive) itinerary due to schedule change.
We have tickets booked for Thanksgiving for LIH-MCI, we were originally booked on the cheapest LIH-LAX-MCI option, our schedule changed recently and instead of the the LIH-LAX-MCI (with a much longer layover in LAX) itinerary they switched us to, I was able to switch to LIH-HNL-SLC-MCI on the website, with the HNL-SLC flight on a flat bed aircraft (for now of course, everything's subject to change), that flight was much more expensive to book when I booked our tickets, but I had no problem switching to it with the schedule change. I was not able to switch to HNL-ATL by the online system, I did not try calling in to do it either.
We have tickets booked for Thanksgiving for LIH-MCI, we were originally booked on the cheapest LIH-LAX-MCI option, our schedule changed recently and instead of the the LIH-LAX-MCI (with a much longer layover in LAX) itinerary they switched us to, I was able to switch to LIH-HNL-SLC-MCI on the website, with the HNL-SLC flight on a flat bed aircraft (for now of course, everything's subject to change), that flight was much more expensive to book when I booked our tickets, but I had no problem switching to it with the schedule change. I was not able to switch to HNL-ATL by the online system, I did not try calling in to do it either.