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Hawaiian loads from BNE & SYD to HNL awful after January 5

Hawaiian loads from BNE & SYD to HNL awful after January 5

Old Sep 4, 19, 12:48 am
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Hawaiian loads from BNE & SYD to HNL awful after January 5

speaking to someone in the know, who said bookings on flights BNE & SYD to HNL after January 5, 2020 are just awful.

Only 4 months out & some aircraft have 200 or so unsold seats. The HA A332s have around 290 seats in total or thereabouts.

They have to be careful cancelling any flights, as much better loads going back to BNE & SYD, but they are looking at how they can cancel some.

HA have 10 flights a week when add BNE & SYD to HNL. They can either cancel 1 or 2 of these a week or have massive sales on fares.

If they were to cancel any SYD/HNL flights, they would have to be on the days they fly BNE/HNL & then would have to include a SYD/BNE domestic sector, which would be a pain for those who thought they were flying nonstop. Would add at least 3 hours, but that would be with a 2 hour connect at BNE & BNE is nearly as bad as SYD to change terminals at.

or they could offer those on a cancelled flight to go day before or day after.

The other options would be to offer fares to places other airlines don't fly to 1 stop like Long Beach or Sacramento, or to other USA mainland ports, with a stopover option in Hawaii. If HA can't swing some good stopover rates at hotels in Hawaii, no one can.

With Qantas, Virgin & other dropping sale fares in what is meant to be the end of peak season, it's a hard one to solve. Be interesting to see what happens in next few weeks or months.
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Old Sep 5, 19, 1:13 am
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Seriously why are these people telling you this stuff... all you seem to do is post it online.

You've taken people on other forums for a ride before:

https://www.australianfrequentflyer....e-quiet.95881/
https://www.australianfrequentflyer....f-seats.95715/
https://www.australianfrequentflyer....filling.95696/
major cutbacks coming to SYD [?]
don't fly Qantas protest gains momentum

For all we know having "200 unsold seats 4 months out" could be normal for that time of year.
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Old Sep 5, 19, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by henrus View Post
Seriously why are these people telling you this stuff... all you seem to do is post it online.

You've taken people on other forums for a ride before:

https://www.australianfrequentflyer....e-quiet.95881/
https://www.australianfrequentflyer....f-seats.95715/
https://www.australianfrequentflyer....filling.95696/
major cutbacks coming to SYD [?]
don't fly Qantas protest gains momentum

For all we know having "200 unsold seats 4 months out" could be normal for that time of year.
don't know what the 1st 3 references are.

Time are certainly bleak for all airlines, with many folding around the world. The really scary thing is even towards the end of peak season, forward bookings are awful. According to source, in previous year, rather than 200 unsold seats for these dates, there might be 20-30 maximum.
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Old Sep 10, 19, 8:06 pm
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just noticed HA are dropping some cheaper fares out of BNE to HNL & west coast USA to price match some of the other options.

They have got to fill seats somehow.

Why do HA have such a large checked baggage allowance ?
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