Hawaiian Has Some Really Short HNL Minimum Connection Times
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Gates are close and rebooking is straightforward. I might take it.
(Initially I thought might be same aircraft scheduled to operate both flights, but I don’t think they schedule turns quite that tight. They do sometimes turn a late inbound that fast.)
(Initially I thought might be same aircraft scheduled to operate both flights, but I don’t think they schedule turns quite that tight. They do sometimes turn a late inbound that fast.)
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Yes, AA still has very short connection times at PHX -- particularly hard when you are in the back of a full 321.
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With the way Hawaiian schedules interisland flights this is common. Under 30min. connection times in HNL means that you'll be on the same aircraft and have the same crew for your flight. B717 flight crews usually do 2 - 3 round trips a day between the islands, with each B717 itself being scheduled to do up to 12 cycles a day.
For those who travel from neighbor island to neighbor island there isn't always a direct flight so you have to connect in HNL. The flight attendants will make an announcement onboard after landing saying that those connecting to "Flight Number" to "Destination" may remain onboard and to give your boarding pass to the flight attendants so they can give it to the gate agents to be scanned and returned to you. It's very convenient and you don't have to deplane and board again onto the same aircraft.
For those who travel from neighbor island to neighbor island there isn't always a direct flight so you have to connect in HNL. The flight attendants will make an announcement onboard after landing saying that those connecting to "Flight Number" to "Destination" may remain onboard and to give your boarding pass to the flight attendants so they can give it to the gate agents to be scanned and returned to you. It's very convenient and you don't have to deplane and board again onto the same aircraft.
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The published MCT for HA at HNL is quite complicated, it varied by flight number, equipment type etc., but the MCT for an ATR operated flight to another ATR operates flight is 20 minutes. The same is true for 717 to 717. So OP your connection is one minute longer than MCT.
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I assume in this case it's likely to be the same plane continuing on to the other island, so no risk of missing the "connection".
[OT] I was amazed yesterday when my wife made a 15 minute connection in Vancouver, coming from Portland and getting to the gate at 12:30pm, going thru passport control, and getting on a flight to Paris departing at 12:45. She was running thru the airport, but made the flight out as they were closing the doors. and her luggage got to Paris also, even more amazing.
Pre-9/11 you could get away with a lot more. My shortest was getting off a train at Schipol airport (Amsterdam) at 8:45pm, buying a ticket, checking a bag, and making it onto a 9:15pm departure to London. More stress than I need in my life these days :-)
[OT] I was amazed yesterday when my wife made a 15 minute connection in Vancouver, coming from Portland and getting to the gate at 12:30pm, going thru passport control, and getting on a flight to Paris departing at 12:45. She was running thru the airport, but made the flight out as they were closing the doors. and her luggage got to Paris also, even more amazing.
Pre-9/11 you could get away with a lot more. My shortest was getting off a train at Schipol airport (Amsterdam) at 8:45pm, buying a ticket, checking a bag, and making it onto a 9:15pm departure to London. More stress than I need in my life these days :-)
Last edited by bpratt; Jul 19, 2018 at 8:55 pm Reason: added info