Possible HA A321neo Routes?
Apr 26, 2018, 10:31 am
#61
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Oh my gosh, this is becoming increasingly difficult and a waste of my time. I post here to provide facts, insight and guidance in matters which I know what I'm talking about. As I have said numerous times... you're entitled to your opinion, can ask questions, make comments etc... I've never intended to disrespect you, but am merely pointing out flaws in your data and lack of facts to which you've built your opinion. This is after all a place for discussion and I'm simply pointing out, with really good authority, that you don't have all the information, so maybe you should reserve judgement until you do. This whole discussion started as a result of a post, found on a blog, in which they obtained published schedule info regarding a flying schedule well into the future. I simply suggested that it was likely subject to change, based on my knowledge of the situation. You inserted assumptions into the discussion, to which I attempted to guide into a factually based discussion. In the end, if you choose to base your opinion without having all the info, then so be it.
Hopefully, the A321neo is PERFECT and has a similar range as the 757. That would be a terrific win for Airbus, since Boeing chose not to make a 757MAX. In theory, the 321neo is wonderful. We shall see what happens in reality, which is often different from the theoretical.
Apr 26, 2018, 6:42 pm
#62
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Hi All:
Pardon the interruption but just wanted to pop in and add a few notes to the conversation:
1. I note there's some divergent points of view in this thread and that's fine and not unexpected. I thank and commend all for keeping the dialog civil and kindly ask this continue going forward. I'd specifically caution against any unduly personalized remarks; as we often advise, "debate the post, not the poster."
2. A few posts that discussed the comfort and seating of the 321neo have been moved to the following thread, where it is more topical - HA 321neo interiors unveiled. I'd like to keep this thread focused on discussion of the new routes announced in the OP.
Mahalo for your kokua,
FlyinHawaiian, Co-Moderator
Hawaii-Based Airlines Forum
Pardon the interruption but just wanted to pop in and add a few notes to the conversation:
1. I note there's some divergent points of view in this thread and that's fine and not unexpected. I thank and commend all for keeping the dialog civil and kindly ask this continue going forward. I'd specifically caution against any unduly personalized remarks; as we often advise, "debate the post, not the poster."
2. A few posts that discussed the comfort and seating of the 321neo have been moved to the following thread, where it is more topical - HA 321neo interiors unveiled. I'd like to keep this thread focused on discussion of the new routes announced in the OP.
Mahalo for your kokua,
FlyinHawaiian, Co-Moderator
Hawaii-Based Airlines Forum
Aug 2, 2018, 9:02 am
#63
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Have been monitoring our Thanksgiving flight OAK-HNL and noticed today that it has changed from 767 to A321. Have "same" seats - row 1 - I had a feeling it would change.
Aug 2, 2018, 10:44 am
#64
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As I mentioned before, lots of changes were likely and there still could be changes as the last 3 delivery dates are firmed for 2018.
Latest 321 developments -
8/1 - HNL-OAK
8/4 - OGG-LAX redeye returns until Sept
8/16 - OGG-SAN reverts again to 321
9/1 - KOA-LAX
10/9 - OGG-OAK
11/18 - OGG-SJC
New deliveries in Sept, Nov and Dec, total fleet: 11.
2019 - so far what’s been published:
On 12/31/18 HNL-PHX returning 1/1/19 will become 330.
SMF is interesting. On Jan 1 it becomes a 330 until March 10th, when it reverts to 767, then March 31st, it goes 321. I suspect there may be some changes here.
Jan - HNL-SJC
Apr - HNL-SMF and the new OGG-SMF, HNL-OAK returns to the 330.
8 total deliveries scheduled in 2019 so there will be lots of new route announcements. Stay tuned!
Latest 321 developments -
8/1 - HNL-OAK
8/4 - OGG-LAX redeye returns until Sept
8/16 - OGG-SAN reverts again to 321
9/1 - KOA-LAX
10/9 - OGG-OAK
11/18 - OGG-SJC
New deliveries in Sept, Nov and Dec, total fleet: 11.
2019 - so far what’s been published:
On 12/31/18 HNL-PHX returning 1/1/19 will become 330.
SMF is interesting. On Jan 1 it becomes a 330 until March 10th, when it reverts to 767, then March 31st, it goes 321. I suspect there may be some changes here.
Jan - HNL-SJC
Apr - HNL-SMF and the new OGG-SMF, HNL-OAK returns to the 330.
8 total deliveries scheduled in 2019 so there will be lots of new route announcements. Stay tuned!
Last edited by azj; Sep 7, 2018 at 1:01 pm
Jan 20, 2019, 9:52 pm
#65
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SFO <-> OGG changing to A321?
I bought some tickets for Thanksgiving holiday travel to OGG. I was surprised to see the seat map is 2-2 and the flight is listed as A321neo. The last three trips I bought SFO <-> OGG was lie flat...
Jan 21, 2019, 12:12 am
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It does appear that in the fall schedule that starts in September, OGG-SFO is going to the 321. Honestly, this was a bit of a surprise, but with the fall schedule so far down the road, things can change and if not, there will likely be more to the story.
Jan 22, 2019, 12:29 pm
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As for PHX, they haven't add nonstop from PHX-OGG/KOA/LIH yet! They didn't have enough aircraft availability. They should considering PHX-OGG/KOA/LIH by operated A321neo.