Fiji Imprisons Tourist For Having Gay Sex
Apr 17, 2005, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by DMorris
So, let's get this straight, if you are gay and fell the need to visit Fiji you will need to deny yourself homosexual activities while in their country. Appears that Fiji is promoting a gay-free society. 
On the other hand, heterosexuals are free to engage in sexual activities. 
I just added Fiji to the list of countries I must visit. ^
On the other hand, heterosexuals are free to engage in sexual activities. I just added Fiji to the list of countries I must visit. ^ ^
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Apr 17, 2005, 11:40 am
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No, Doppy, this is totally different. For its married, moral and upstanding visitors, Fiji is defending the sanctity of their marriages (it's also defending the future marriages of the singles). God knows that seeing (or even hearing about) nearby gay activity would put my marriage in deep jeopardy.
Apr 17, 2005, 6:19 pm
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What About States?
Originally Posted by rpmkwpw
The fact is, if you choose to visit a country which is not your own and engage in unlawful activities, you risk the consequences. Whether those consequences are harsh, or morally wrong, is a different question altogether. And, it is a question of opinion and perspective, not of law.
Apr 17, 2005, 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by SYDguy
With the Howard Government, don't count on it.
Alleged drug smugglers in Bali - maybe; consenting adult gay men doing what comes naturally - no way.
The current Australian Government have already made their agenda clear last year introducing specific legislation outlawing same sex unions throughout the Commonwealth.
Alleged drug smugglers in Bali - maybe; consenting adult gay men doing what comes naturally - no way.
The current Australian Government have already made their agenda clear last year introducing specific legislation outlawing same sex unions throughout the Commonwealth.
Apr 17, 2005, 6:35 pm
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Originally Posted by umguy
If you are going to Fiji to go and enjoy your vacation that's one thing. But if you are going to make a political statement by not going that your fault. Go ahead waste your money. I mean would you honestly not go because they discriminated against 1 gay guy? Better yet would the fact everyone there doesn't accept you stop any of you from going anywhere? If so that's sad.
I know a couple who are moving from Atlanta to Chicago because they can't stand living in (and contributing to the economy of) a state that rejects them and officially classifies them as less-than.
Apr 18, 2005, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by anabolism
I know a couple who are moving from Atlanta to Chicago because they can't stand living in (and contributing to the economy of) a state that rejects them and officially classifies them as less-than.
With a few exceptions, I do my best to avoid these places in the US. I'm slightly more forgiving of backward countries that are still (almost literally) living in the dark ages, but a lot less forgiving of Western countries where the public should know better than to discriminate and persecute.
Apr 18, 2005, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by DMorris
So, let's get this straight, if you are gay and fell the need to visit Fiji you will need to deny yourself homosexual activities while in their country. Appears that Fiji is promoting a gay-free society. On the other hand, heterosexuals are free to engage in sexual activities. I just added Fiji to the list of countries I must visit. ^
On the other hand, heterosexuals are free to engage in sexual activities. I just added Fiji to the list of countries I must visit. ^
You were probably just joking around, but it didn't come through - at least, how I read it.
Apr 18, 2005, 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by jongar
and I wont travel to the united stated till they repeal the death penalty, allow freedom of travel unecumbered.
That country has a different set of values - they are not wrong, just not the same as yours
That country has a different set of values - they are not wrong, just not the same as yours
I'm glad you can do that. Unfortunately, I'm stuck here for now. I'm a little more selfish, though. More upset about the blatant theocratic homophobia here...............
But the values (or lack thereof) are wrong here...
Apr 18, 2005, 7:13 pm
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Originally Posted by umguy
I mean would you honestly not go because they discriminated against 1 gay guy? ........ If so that's sad.
I mean.......YES!!!!! (And it was 2!)
They were imprisoned.
THAT'S SAD!!!
Apr 18, 2005, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by John Galt
However, I can't see how any reasonable person would try to say that a ban on gay sex is the moral equivalent of the rape and murder of thousands, and the expulsion of hundreds of thousands in the Sudan. Trying to make the two equal is an insult to the millions of victims of the Holocaust, ...............
If I learned it was illegal for me to have sex with the one I love at a potential vacation spot, I'd reconsider my visit. But surely you agree that there is a difference between that and having soldiers kick down your door, gang rape your partner, murder your children, burn your house, and chase you out of your country.
If I learned it was illegal for me to have sex with the one I love at a potential vacation spot, I'd reconsider my visit. But surely you agree that there is a difference between that and having soldiers kick down your door, gang rape your partner, murder your children, burn your house, and chase you out of your country.
In Germany they did murder you for being gay.
So the above is an insult to all those Holocaust victims.
Apr 19, 2005, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by izzik
Just curious but has there ever been a successful tourism boycott of a country?
As an example of the difference, suppose you change your own oil in your car. You could be lazy and dump the used oil in the storm drain, where it adds to ocean polution, or you could drive it to a collection point. If you did the latter, you could be asked if you were 'successful'. Success could mean reducing ocean pollution by a significant amount, or it could mean you personally not contributing to ocean polution.