Driving in Germany
#16




Join Date: May 2006
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Roads in the US are an embarassment. I saw a special on Discovery or TLC or one of those channels about the AutoBahn network - it really is amazing how far behind we are.
#17
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This is interesting to me. I am planning a vacation in Germany and will be staying at a hotel near Kamp Bornhofen on the Rhine on our last night in Germany. My plan was to drive from there to FRA in the morning to catch a flight at noon. But reading this I am starting to think about taking a train instead. There is a Hertz place in Bingen where I could drop off the rental car and catch a train to the airport. This is for a family of four with a bunch of luggage so it's kind of a hassle.
Any thoughts? Is it worth taking a train instead? I'd be doing this drive on a Wed. morning and would need to be at FRA by 10:00 am or so. Google estimates 1.5 hrs from the hotel to FRA.
Any thoughts? Is it worth taking a train instead? I'd be doing this drive on a Wed. morning and would need to be at FRA by 10:00 am or so. Google estimates 1.5 hrs from the hotel to FRA.
#18
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Berlin and Buggenhagen, Germany
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+1 to just leaving a little earlier. Turn in the car at the FRA airport. It is too much hassle to do the public transport thing with four people and luggage while you still have to be on time. Plus, who knows what kind of connection you'd get anyway? Might be that you'd have to leave even earlier than taking the car.
OT!
Tom, what do you mean? Do you mean this type of car would have its suspension tuned before being allowed on the road in Germany? I don't get you. I really think the suspension is fine. Not as good as a BMW but definitely on par with a Ford. Quite sporty and firm. Steering ratio could be more aggressive for my taste but road feedback and steering feel are very good.
I don't think I ever traveled on the roads you mentioned so I have no reference there.
I also don't think my car ever saw Bremerhaven. It got imported directly from Australia to the USA. They did change the gas tank location for US safety norms, which sucks because now the tank takes up half of the trunk.
Otherwise, I love the car. It is rather well made, has a nice design (when the wing is taken off like I did), is very comfortable and is as fast and quick as a Porsche 911 or BMW M3 but with even more torque. Obviously, it doesn't reach anywhere close to these two cars in handling and prestige but one has to remember that it costs only 1/2 or 1/3 of the other two.
Besides that, being a German in Texas and driving an American muscle car has a nice exotic flair. Good story to tell back home.
Till
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The choice of car could have something to do with the wobbly feeling... that's the sort of car that gets a little... ahem... makeover in Bremerhaven (the port that handles most car imports into Germany) before the vehicle is released into an environment where it is actually legal to drive the car at speed. Large parts of A 3, A 63 to Kaiserslautern, A 62, A 60 to Belgium and A 48 aren't much better than your average interstate, and not all of them have speed limits (only the truly dire bits do). But your average BMW, or German-built Ford for that matter, do just fine. And they would on the I-10.
I don't think I ever traveled on the roads you mentioned so I have no reference there.
I also don't think my car ever saw Bremerhaven. It got imported directly from Australia to the USA. They did change the gas tank location for US safety norms, which sucks because now the tank takes up half of the trunk.
Otherwise, I love the car. It is rather well made, has a nice design (when the wing is taken off like I did), is very comfortable and is as fast and quick as a Porsche 911 or BMW M3 but with even more torque. Obviously, it doesn't reach anywhere close to these two cars in handling and prestige but one has to remember that it costs only 1/2 or 1/3 of the other two.
Besides that, being a German in Texas and driving an American muscle car has a nice exotic flair. Good story to tell back home.

Till
#19
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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This is interesting to me. I am planning a vacation in Germany and will be staying at a hotel near Kamp Bornhofen on the Rhine on our last night in Germany. My plan was to drive from there to FRA in the morning to catch a flight at noon. But reading this I am starting to think about taking a train instead. There is a Hertz place in Bingen where I could drop off the rental car and catch a train to the airport. This is for a family of four with a bunch of luggage so it's kind of a hassle.
Any thoughts? Is it worth taking a train instead? I'd be doing this drive on a Wed. morning and would need to be at FRA by 10:00 am or so. Google estimates 1.5 hrs from the hotel to FRA.
Any thoughts? Is it worth taking a train instead? I'd be doing this drive on a Wed. morning and would need to be at FRA by 10:00 am or so. Google estimates 1.5 hrs from the hotel to FRA.
In another case I was sitting comfortably on the train with other passengers waiting to depart when after awhile the conductor came on and told us surprisingly to get off. When we got outside we saw that they had decoupled the front half of the train and just left us there!
You shouldn't have any problems driving if you just leave early enough.
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The A66 between Wiesbaden and Frankfurt is done. Very nice to drive now.
#21
Join Date: May 2007
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Road-enthusiasts in Germany often lament the influence of what they call the 'eco-fascists'. For example, the missing part of the A143 in Saxony is will not be built for years (litigation tied up in the courts) because it runs through... an area with an abundance of porphyry, a type of igneous rock!!
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Thanks!
Thanks all for the advice - I'll stick with my original plan of driving to FRA. Getting on a train with kids and luggage and then finding seats and places to stow the bags can be pretty stressful (we've done it before several times).

