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Feb 20, 2007 | 3:49 am

SmilingBoy

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Automated Border Control FRA

I would like to sign up for the automated border control at FRA. Am I correct in assuming that this will work with a German Personalausweis (national ID)?

Anything else to consider (besides what is written on the website of the automated border control)?

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Feb 20, 2007 | 3:59 am

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Don't you need the passport for this ?
(I haven't signed up, as I hardly ever start my trips from FRA thesedays)

Feb 20, 2007 | 4:04 am

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You are not.

You'll need a machine-readable passport. Your ID card is not sufficient (as it is not sufficient if you leave the EU).

Cheers.

Feb 20, 2007 | 4:08 am

SmilingBoy

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I don't know. The English version of the page talks about passport, the German version about "Reisedokument", and different types of "Reisedokument". ID card is not especially stated.

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Feb 20, 2007 | 4:15 am

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I would argue that the Personalausweis is not primarily a travel document but more of an idenfication document. The passport however would be primarily a travel document.

Feb 20, 2007 | 4:19 am

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The hardware they use is set up to deal with passports, not ID cards.

Feb 20, 2007 | 4:20 am

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The ID (Personalausweis) wouldn't really make sense... It must be the Reisepass...

Feb 20, 2007 | 4:23 am

SmilingBoy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple3

You are not.

You'll need a machine-readable passport. Your ID card is not sufficient (as it is not sufficient if you leave the EU).

Cheers.

Thanks, I guess I'll take both my ID card and my passport with me. But note that I can fly from FRA to LHR with just my ID card, and even if flying outside Europe (or for the quick walk to the B SEN lounge from the B Schengen gates), I always only show my ID card when at a European (especially German) border control.

Thanks to the others as well. This makes it less helpful to me as I often only travel with an ID card.

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Last edited by SmilingBoy; Feb 20, 2007 at 4:46 am Reason: typo

Feb 20, 2007 | 4:42 am

Uli

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i use it regularly, since when it was first installed. you need to register your passport for it, they dont accept ID cards.

Feb 20, 2007 | 5:21 am

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You need a passport. This service is for all passengers, not only for germans.

I am (Austrian) also registered and it works very fine for me.

Feb 20, 2007 | 5:33 am

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Pasport is mandatory. Here is the link

http://www.bundespolizei.de/cln_029/...html__nnn=true

Feb 20, 2007 | 5:49 am

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Passport, it will not even work with BPA ("Bundespersonalausweis") as this is a question of abiliy to scan this dokuments. BPA's are scannable, but not for this sort of thing - do not aks me any details, but this is what I was told by somebody from the IT Department of the BMI.

Registration is at the BGS office near LH's First Class / Business Class Check In Area.

Feb 20, 2007 | 6:47 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by szg

You need a passport. This service is for all passengers, not only for germans.

I am (Austrian) also registered and it works very fine for me.

That's not quite true. The service is for all passengers who have an EU citizenship. Non-EU citizens are not eligible for automated passport control.

And I can confirm that they will only accept passports, I specifically asked about my Personalausweis when I signed up and they said the system couldn't handle it.