CGN closed after security breach

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May 30, 2016 | 4:53 am
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Terminal 1 is being evacuated, all flights stopped or returning from taxi to gate.

http://www.ksta.de/koeln/grossalarm-...uiert-24140116
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May 30, 2016 | 6:38 am
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12:08 Uhr: Passagiere sitzen in Maschinen fest

Alle Flugzeuge von Terminal 1 mssen zur Sicherheit vom Rollfeld zurck in ihre Parkposition. Die Passagiere mssen an Bord ihrer Maschinen bleiben, so die Durchsagen in den Flugzeugen. Man vertreibe sich die Zeit damit, mgliche Entschdigungen auszurechnen, schreibt einer unserer Reporter, der in einer Germanwings-Maschine festsitzt.
Obviously too many Flyertalker around. However, this appears to be a nice example of extraordinary circumstances.
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May 30, 2016 | 7:51 am
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Had a laugh on that one, too.

Anyway, "Situation green" now.
A 62y.o. spaniard "tried to rush to his plane" through some door he wasnt supposed to to use.
Right.. a door any older can use and that results in several thousands being held aground.

Who is the terrist here? :-P
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May 30, 2016 | 8:13 am
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Quote: ..., this appears to be a nice example of extraordinary circumstances.
That solely depends on who and on what basis you are seeking compensation. Compensation according to 261/04 will certainly be out of the picture. You could however sue that moron that got the airport to a screeching halt. Obviously you would need to proof that you suffered a damage for which the moron is responsible.

The situation certainly show how bad the security management is at the airport, given that this shouldn't happen under any circumstance.
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May 30, 2016 | 8:35 am
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Quote: That solely depends on who and on what basis you are seeking compensation. Compensation according to 261/04 will certainly be out of the picture. You could however sue that moron that got the airport to a screeching halt. Obviously you would need to proof that you suffered a damage for which the moron is responsible.

The situation certainly show how bad the security management is at the airport, given that this shouldn't happen under any circumstance.
Unfortunately (or fortunately for the most of us) you are incorrect. As a pax you do not have any contractual relationship with the moron and a tort case under German law would require a breach of one of the absolute rights mentioned in section 823 of the German Civil Code:

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A person who, intentionally or negligently, unlawfully injures the life, body, health, freedom, property or another right of another person is liable to make compensation to the other party for the damage arising from this
I said "fortunately" because you might wish to imagine that you are responsible for a traffic accident on a main motorway and everybody in the traffic jam caused by you could sue you for damages. Pretty uncomfortable, ain't it?
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May 30, 2016 | 9:34 am
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Quote: ..management is at the airport, given that this shouldn't happen under any circumstance.
CGN has a really bad track record the last months.. including a possibility to download (all?) the security measures from the internet (from their own page, not via leaks).
Maybe that spaniard was just very well informed?
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May 30, 2016 | 10:35 am
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Quote: Unfortunately (or fortunately for the most of us) you are incorrect.
I was generally speaking. Obviously, you need to fulfill the local legislative criteria in order to demand reparation of your prejudice. The chances to proof a sufficient causality between the prejudice and the triggering event are in this case slim to none. It would be pretty similar in the case of you getting late to work due to a traffic accident.

But that (and you should probably know that) doesn't stop people from suing or at least claiming the money. Success of their action is another pair of shoes.
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May 30, 2016 | 11:20 am
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Quote: Unfortunately (or fortunately for the most of us) you are incorrect. As a pax you do not have any contractual relationship with the moron and a tort case under German law would require a breach of one of the absolute rights mentioned in section 823 of the German Civil Code:
@ 823 I: I guess someone will try to claim compensation because of restrictions of personal liberty
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May 30, 2016 | 11:30 am
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Quote: I said "fortunately" because you might wish to imagine that you are responsible for a traffic accident on a main motorway and everybody in the traffic jam caused by you could sue you for damages. Pretty uncomfortable, ain't it?
Quote: But that (and you should probably know that) doesn't stop people from suing or at least claiming the money. Success of their action is another pair of shoes.
So true.... Found a funny case AG Achim, 10 C 632/05 (German only, sorry). Sometime I dont have words

But: AG Bad Segeberg, 17 C 96/11
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