Question about passport requirements for travel from Brazil to Germany
May 5, 2016, 2:10 am
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Yes as a german you have to own a valid ID otherwise they can fine you up to 5000€ (but there´s no need to carry the ID all the time with you).
May 5, 2016, 12:59 pm
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May 6, 2016, 9:39 am
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And it may also be of interest that until a few years national identity card were only available to people resident in Germany, not to expats. Lots of expats probably still don't have them because they don't know that they can now get them.
May 6, 2016, 9:55 am
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Correct me if I'm wrong:
1. German citizen living in Germany needs ID card, but passport not compulsory since he might not wish to travel abroad
2. German citizen living outside Germany (German expat) needs only passport and no longer requires national ID card
3. Other expat living in Germany needs only passport (especially if, as in my case, UK only has passports but no ID cards)
1. German citizen living in Germany needs ID card, but passport not compulsory since he might not wish to travel abroad
2. German citizen living outside Germany (German expat) needs only passport and no longer requires national ID card
3. Other expat living in Germany needs only passport (especially if, as in my case, UK only has passports but no ID cards)
May 6, 2016, 10:37 am
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Correct me if I'm wrong:
1. German citizen living in Germany needs ID card, but passport not compulsory since he might not wish to travel abroad
2. German citizen living outside Germany (German expat) needs only passport and no longer requires national ID card
3. Other expat living in Germany needs only passport (especially if, as in my case, UK only has passports but no ID cards)
1. German citizen living in Germany needs ID card, but passport not compulsory since he might not wish to travel abroad
2. German citizen living outside Germany (German expat) needs only passport and no longer requires national ID card
3. Other expat living in Germany needs only passport (especially if, as in my case, UK only has passports but no ID cards)
2. Incorrect. He may wish to have a passport, but he isn't obligated to have one. Until quite recently, he could not have had an ID living outside Germany. Now he can.
3. Not quite. You need to be able to identify yourself (you don't need to have a passport to do this but it's the logical document). An ID card (and several other forms) would also suffice.
May 6, 2016, 2:05 pm
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These fines are an urban myth. It is true that German citizens have to have a valid ID at any point, but fines if passport and ID card are both expired, are typically not enforced.
May 6, 2016, 4:45 pm
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May 6, 2016, 4:47 pm
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Correct me if I'm wrong:
1. German citizen living in Germany needs ID card, but passport not compulsory since he might not wish to travel abroad
2. German citizen living outside Germany (German expat) needs only passport and no longer requires national ID card
3. Other expat living in Germany needs only passport (especially if, as in my case, UK only has passports but no ID cards)
1. German citizen living in Germany needs ID card, but passport not compulsory since he might not wish to travel abroad
2. German citizen living outside Germany (German expat) needs only passport and no longer requires national ID card
3. Other expat living in Germany needs only passport (especially if, as in my case, UK only has passports but no ID cards)
You either need an ID card or a passport.
May 7, 2016, 12:57 am
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The only situation, I can think of, other than travel, where either will be required, is to open a bank account. In all other situations, a diver's license will be sufficient identification. German driver's licenses don't expire.
May 7, 2016, 2:58 am
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BS. The fines exist. The legislator allows local authorities to enforce fines (up to 5,000€). But tell me: What major or city council is crazy enough to do that? The municipalities that fine their residents usually fine no more than a few hundred euros and only in extreme cases.
Yes they do. The new driving licenses do expire every ten or fifteen (?) years or so. Your license won't be revoked. It's just a question of getting a new piece of plastic with an up-to-date picture. The old ones have to be exchanged somewhere in the future (I believe around 2030).
Yes they do. The new driving licenses do expire every ten or fifteen (?) years or so. Your license won't be revoked. It's just a question of getting a new piece of plastic with an up-to-date picture. The old ones have to be exchanged somewhere in the future (I believe around 2030).
May 7, 2016, 3:11 am
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Not sure whether a driving licence would be accepted as sufficient form of identification if making contracts and such with a notary when buying or selling property or forming a limited company for example.
