Smoking Rules
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Smoking Rules
Are all the German states now smoke free in all cafes & restauarants & hotel bars?
I asumed they were until i read in Lonely Planet that this might not be the case? Can someone clear this up as we are planning a trip to The Black Forrest area in October & want to avoid smoky eateries if possible.
I asumed they were until i read in Lonely Planet that this might not be the case? Can someone clear this up as we are planning a trip to The Black Forrest area in October & want to avoid smoky eateries if possible.
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My understanding was that smoking legislation was down to individual states (as opposed to the federal government), and that different states have different smoking laws - from a total ban in some states to laws allowing separate smoking rooms in others.
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By the way, I've just heard that Bayern has just approved to restrict smoking even more. If I understood right, the only exception there will be the Oktoberfest.
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- The federal government tried to introduce a smoking ban (in 2005, IIRC)
- The Constitutional Court ruled that smoking legislation was not within the jurisdiction of the federal government (but had to be done at state level)
- This ruling left each state free to introduce its own smoking ban - or not! (In other words, it's the entire legislation that's done at state level, not just the exemptions)
- There are now smoking bans in all states.
By the way, I've just heard that Bayern has just approved to restrict smoking even more. If I understood right, the only exception there will be the Oktoberfest.
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the referendum in Bavaria was 61% pro for the strongest smoking-ban law in all German states.
From August on smoking is absolutely prohibited in every gastronomical location, including Oktoberfest as well (but for Oktoberfest this rule will start in 2011).
So you can be sure from August on to have your meals in complete smoke free places.
From August on smoking is absolutely prohibited in every gastronomical location, including Oktoberfest as well (but for Oktoberfest this rule will start in 2011).
So you can be sure from August on to have your meals in complete smoke free places.
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In Baden Wrttemberg (this is where the black forest is) smoking is banned in large aprts of the restaurant. just ask for a non smoking table. However in some cases you will see signs that say that this estabishment is non smoking.
Don't worry and enjoy my part of the world.
Don't worry and enjoy my part of the world.
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In Baden Wrttemberg (this is where the black forest is) smoking is banned in large aprts of the restaurant. just ask for a non smoking table. However in some cases you will see signs that say that this estabishment is non smoking.
Don't worry and enjoy my part of the world.
Don't worry and enjoy my part of the world.
Will the signs on the restaurant say Rauchen Frei or Keine Rauchen?
Do the same rules apply to snack bars where there is inside seating?
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Yes the rules also apply to snack bars.
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In Berlin you can smoke in bars up to a certain size, where food isn't served. I saw something in the press the other day that there may be another call to introduce a countrywide ban similar to that in Bavaria.


