Frontier's ever-changing route map
#31
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Jacksonville, AR
Programs: Hilton - Diamond; SPG/Marriott - Gold
Posts: 245
Anyone have any insight on the LAX-COS route for 2019? It only ran for a few months this year, but it was super convenient. The frontier website only shows the seasonal route as of last year.
#32
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
Programs: UA,WN,AA,DL, B6
Posts: 4,168
For s time they flew CLE-FLL flights were always very full then they pulled most flights out off FLL and moved then to MIA but that only lasted 1 year now they fly to PBI. So many route changes plus many flights only operate 3 days a week.
#33
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
Programs: Frontier Gold, DL estranged 1MMer, Spirit VIP, CO/NW/UA/AA once gold/plat/comped gold now dust.
Posts: 38,136
ATL continues to get the really awful camp-out-in-DEN-airport "connections" to places via the Denver hub. You'd think a top priority would be to get those working more smoothly to/from the biggest cities that have the biggest potential markets for the connecting routes. But from ATL they don't have the fares or the schedule to have same-day connections via DEN to many places. It's not like a city like BHM or GSP or even BNA will have that many people looking to go to ELP, RNO, GEG or someplace like that. But with ATL they're really missing a bet because the only non-stop option for some of those places might be DL (charging a lot) and WN might not be that great, either.
I've flown connections on award tickets (though no camp-outs to date), but lately it seems like every time I check there's a nasty overnight involved...that situation seems to be getting worse rather than better. Seems like only the non-stops work.
I've flown connections on award tickets (though no camp-outs to date), but lately it seems like every time I check there's a nasty overnight involved...that situation seems to be getting worse rather than better. Seems like only the non-stops work.
#35
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: AS MVP 100K, F9 dirt Hilton damond, Choice Gold, Former DL Plat, UA 1K
Posts: 366
Agreed. F9 seems to price based on segments, with sometimes odd and ill-timed connections pricing far higher than the nonstop, unlike almost every other carrier out there, which computes the route cost, then prices start point to end point, adding on PFCs and TSA money grabs.
#36
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: St Petersburg, FL, USA
Posts: 2,253
Raising this thread from the dead for my annual request:
Now that I have the Frontier status match, it's time to again attempt to discover when/where they actually fly. Wikipedia used to do an okay job, but post-covid the F9 routes are completely wrong for departing airports, and Wikipedia will fight you if you attempt to correct them. So is there a DOT site or a source for Frontier nonstops? Nowhere on their website do they provide information as to where they fly point-to-point.
Now that I have the Frontier status match, it's time to again attempt to discover when/where they actually fly. Wikipedia used to do an okay job, but post-covid the F9 routes are completely wrong for departing airports, and Wikipedia will fight you if you attempt to correct them. So is there a DOT site or a source for Frontier nonstops? Nowhere on their website do they provide information as to where they fly point-to-point.
#37
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 127
Raising this thread from the dead for my annual request:
Now that I have the Frontier status match, it's time to again attempt to discover when/where they actually fly. Wikipedia used to do an okay job, but post-covid the F9 routes are completely wrong for departing airports, and Wikipedia will fight you if you attempt to correct them. So is there a DOT site or a source for Frontier nonstops? Nowhere on their website do they provide information as to where they fly point-to-point.
Now that I have the Frontier status match, it's time to again attempt to discover when/where they actually fly. Wikipedia used to do an okay job, but post-covid the F9 routes are completely wrong for departing airports, and Wikipedia will fight you if you attempt to correct them. So is there a DOT site or a source for Frontier nonstops? Nowhere on their website do they provide information as to where they fly point-to-point.
#38
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: St Petersburg, FL, USA
Posts: 2,253
Thank you. That is an attractive site. Also extremely buggy and inaccurate. My initial searches for F9 routes from TPA lists an incomplete set of nonstop cities, missing several that I know exist. For the remaining cities, the site states "We don't have any scheduled departures between TPA and [CITY] for this date" on dates when there actually is a flight). If you click on the date that says "0 flights" it sends you to Kayak, where it tells, yes, a flight actually does exist.
I'm not sure how the data on this site can be so inaccurate, since it looks like it is using data directly from the airlines.
I'm not sure how the data on this site can be so inaccurate, since it looks like it is using data directly from the airlines.
Last edited by Tino; Dec 7, 2021 at 11:28 am
#41
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: United 1K, Frontier 100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond/ Ambassador/ Milestoner
Posts: 568
Google flights can be difficult, but if you come back to the explore map from an F9 search, then you get the map with just F9 showing.
So, go to google flights and put in something like DEN to LAS, and choose only Frontier. Then change the LAS to United States and hit return. The Explore map should come up for the whole country but with only F9 flights. Then you can change the origin city to what ever you want as well as the dates. Then save that to your desktop to get it back immediately when you want just this search.
I would put my link here but it is hundreds of alphanumberics long and I am afraid that some of my cookie info is embedded in it.
So, go to google flights and put in something like DEN to LAS, and choose only Frontier. Then change the LAS to United States and hit return. The Explore map should come up for the whole country but with only F9 flights. Then you can change the origin city to what ever you want as well as the dates. Then save that to your desktop to get it back immediately when you want just this search.
I would put my link here but it is hundreds of alphanumberics long and I am afraid that some of my cookie info is embedded in it.