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miamiflyer8 Nov 11, 2019 2:06 pm

  • You can take one extra bag
Is the wording from the old site. AFAIK nothing has changed. By their logic as a tier member upgraded to JFK I should only get 2 bags instead of 3.

miamiflyer8 Nov 11, 2019 2:12 pm


Originally Posted by OHPlatsku (Post 31726002)
Once a needed a taxi for myself, and another one for the luggage. Also had a decent size safety deposit box in my rimowa (don’t ask!).

Had this happen to me too. For the life of me I cannot understand why it is impossible in Finland to order a large sized taxi van weeks in advance for those who need it and willing to pay extra. Ended up calling on the day of departure two regular vehicles.

ffay005 Nov 11, 2019 2:25 pm

Reading the title I thought someone is sending out phishing emails, promising phoney upgrades, or something :D

Eyrie Nov 11, 2019 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by ffay005 (Post 31726137)
Reading the title I thought someone is sending out phishing emails, promising phoney upgrades, or something :D

"Click here to pay 50€ and we'll clear your waitlisted upgrades within 24hrs"

miamiflyer8 Nov 11, 2019 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by ffay005 (Post 31726137)
Reading the title I thought someone is sending out phishing emails, promising phoney upgrades, or something :D

I thought something along the lines of "AY turns 96 yrs and in honor we are giving out 2 LH vouchers to each who share this post" on Facebook.

DrSickle Nov 11, 2019 10:16 pm

Although this doesn't affect me personally that much (as JPN tickets technically always worked like this due to large Y allowance), this is alarming as a principle. Will AY now move toward unbundled business fares? Are we going to see I fares with less allowance, U fares with no lounge access or chargeable seat selection next? The "pay 1000€ to sit in J with Y service" was bad enough already.

Also, upgraded EU light ticket now shows allowance of 1 in the app (as plat). Wondering what that's all about...

Jainzar Nov 11, 2019 11:32 pm

This might be also because of Light tickets (to NA).

But does the new rule mean, that an upgraded European Pro ticket gets 3 bags included while in J you get only 2? :eek:

AY1337 Nov 12, 2019 12:10 am

I (plat) just had a value tix BKK-HEL-LHR both legs upgraded, LH with a voucher, SH with points. App said that BKK-HEL (voucher upgrade) had 3 bags and HEL-LHR had 4 bags and as I inquired this from the CS they told me it's a bug and they'll fix it directly in my booking. (They never did, but I didn't need it anyway so I didn't inquire further.)

Furry Nov 12, 2019 12:11 am

I have an upcoming NA cartel light ticket upgraded to U showing 3PC in App - according to this rule should be only 2PC.

Jainzar Nov 12, 2019 12:19 am


Originally Posted by Furry (Post 31727556)
I have an upcoming NA cartel light ticket upgraded to U showing 3PC in App - according to this rule should be only 2PC.

When was it upgraded?

OH-LGG Nov 12, 2019 12:43 am

From Finnair dictionary:

Weakening benefits = simplify


CS reply this mornng:

Matkatavaramäärä on haluttu selkeyttää korotustilanteissa. Nykyään korotuksen myötä saa yhden lisämatkatavaran ruumaan eikä siinä päde ostetun bisneslipun matkatavarakiintiö
AY wants to make it simple so upgraded ticket allows only 1 added baggage.

Furry Nov 12, 2019 12:55 am


Originally Posted by Jainzar (Post 31727575)
When was it upgraded?

In early Sept.

intuition Nov 12, 2019 1:45 am


Originally Posted by OHPlatsku (Post 31726002)
Finnair’s allowance has always been very generous. Over 100kg with business ticket + status. In comparison EK’s First allowance is 50kg.
...

QR has almost identical allowances for J and F; 40-65KG depending on departure. Plat tier member has +20KG on top, so it is not that far behind.
Do note that AY allowance is piece-concept and ME carriers are mostly weight concept. So the "over 100kg" moniker is true if travelling with 4x 32KG. The generosity comes from both allowing +1PC for tier members, having 3PC base allowance on some destinations (n.b. not all!) and at the same time voiding heavy/large bag fee for plats. So that how you end up at over 100kg. For example, if the rule was "void heavy bag fee for 1 bag" then it would be much less generous.
OTOH, on QR I can check in 8 bags each weighing 10kg and they would still be smiling. ;)

Ed Size Nov 12, 2019 1:47 am

My booking in the app also only shows 3 pieces - sucks. But it´s all weired, my confirmation letter for this upgraded flight (U class) shows only 1PC (which I haven t seen when it came in), while my last real C booking showed the allowance of 3PC. So I now get two extra bags as a benefit - while I only get one when I was flying on a C booking.

Anyhow this will result in six 32KGs bags instead of eight bags over 25KGs. But still, at least they could communicate the in a correct way - not only just changing the numbers on your confirmation letter.

FFlash Nov 12, 2019 9:20 am


Originally Posted by OH-LGG (Post 31727632)
From Finnair dictionary:

Weakening benefits = simplify


CS reply this mornng:


AY wants to make it simple so upgraded ticket allows only 1 added baggage.

So we have now katotaan-concept and also simplified-concept.


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