Do you compensate your CO2 emissions?
#16
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Co2 offsets are pretty inexpensive. About $10 for round trip trans Atlantic in economy.
I have never felt compelled to be green but find it can often be easier and less wasteful. When we were looking for our current house we found a place within walking distance of shops. We hardly drive anymore, walking or cycling everywhere. We got rid of one car and fill the other one up once every 3 weeks. We also had the option from our local power company to get all of our electricity from renewable sources for an additional 3.12 cents per kWh.
None of this was difficult nor particularly expensive.
I have never felt compelled to be green but find it can often be easier and less wasteful. When we were looking for our current house we found a place within walking distance of shops. We hardly drive anymore, walking or cycling everywhere. We got rid of one car and fill the other one up once every 3 weeks. We also had the option from our local power company to get all of our electricity from renewable sources for an additional 3.12 cents per kWh.
None of this was difficult nor particularly expensive.
#17
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Wow. Just last week I renewed my 2-year contract for electricity. I pay 4,48 eurocents/kWh and zero monthly fees. In addition to that there are taxes to be paid and fees for the network operator, so the total cost for electricity is a lot more, but still.
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Travel service providers are taking note of this, too.
I believe SAS and Lyft, for example, already offset all CO2 emissions. Delta has some sort of scheme for corporate accounts, too, although it's a bit complicated. Your company may even do the offset themselves.
Bottom line: if you're concerned, take it to your company's travel team. You may be surprised what they say.
I believe SAS and Lyft, for example, already offset all CO2 emissions. Delta has some sort of scheme for corporate accounts, too, although it's a bit complicated. Your company may even do the offset themselves.
Bottom line: if you're concerned, take it to your company's travel team. You may be surprised what they say.
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And my answer to the initial question:
No, I do not compensate. This is not based on any pejorative attitude, it is simply because this game is about optimise points per €.
An truly green and innovative airline would offer tier and award points on the compensation. Maybe miss K can launch a "climate compensate your next flight and earn 2x points" in june?
No, I do not compensate. This is not based on any pejorative attitude, it is simply because this game is about optimise points per €.
An truly green and innovative airline would offer tier and award points on the compensation. Maybe miss K can launch a "climate compensate your next flight and earn 2x points" in june?
#20
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I want to offset my flights. I went to www.carbonfootprint.com and it seems suspiciously cheap to offset the flights I actually chose to take, rather than occasional work-related flights. The schemes, such as paying for reforestation, sound plausible. Given the prices I see, I would probably pay for my work flights as well.
What are the best offset schemes and choices?
What are the best offset schemes and choices?
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We are very fortunate to live an in area of the world that has access to lots of renewable energy from multiple sources. Even if we did not pay the supplement our prices are crazy cheap and 35% of the normal mix is renewable.
An interesting by product of these low prices is that you do not see much solar on the roofs of houses. In SoCal you see it everywhere but here it is not so common as it takes longer to make back your investment.
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For us this would mean an extra 700€ or so p.a. Why should I pay for the power company's "greenness" - they obviously have the technical knowledge & capacity to generate "green" energy, but no willingness to supply it at market rates, ie no willingness to make the material sacrifice of being "green"
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No countries like Germany are more in the 28Cent - 30Cent direction - more then 50% of that are taxes/fees. (fees we pay for greener energy)
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No disagreement here, except that I'd turn around causality
For us this would mean an extra 700€ or so p.a. Why should I pay for the power company's "greenness" - they obviously have the technical knowledge & capacity to generate "green" energy, but no willingness to supply it at market rates, ie no willingness to make the material sacrifice of being "green"
For us this would mean an extra 700€ or so p.a. Why should I pay for the power company's "greenness" - they obviously have the technical knowledge & capacity to generate "green" energy, but no willingness to supply it at market rates, ie no willingness to make the material sacrifice of being "green"
I am in a unique area of the country though. Lots of wind, solar, an even hydro available.
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I know this is a divisive topic in Germany but the world benefited greatly from Germany and China's early investment in renewable tech. Not just from slowing the growth of Co2 but more from achieving the economies of scale that dramatically reduced the infrastructure costs.
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Good question. I went to the website to find out. It appears they use it to expand their wind energy production. Apparently we are in a good area for wind and the result is our electric rates are among the lowest in the the state. Even when combined with the cost of a Renewable Power subscription our rates are 31% lower than state average.
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While at the same time, Lyft just becomes a major contributor to CO2 emissions.