Mar 5, 2018, 2:06 am
Last edit by: intuition
This is a summary of rules and perks for AY+ members travelling on the new "unbundled" Light (basic) tickets
Seating
Seating will be automatic/random when check-in opens.
Seat selection is chargeable even after check-in opens.
Children will be seated next to one adult if booked in the same PNR. Adults and youths in same ticket can be spread all over cabin.
Tier member seat selection perk
AY+ silver gets free seat selection on BA operated flights from seven days before departure
AY+gold and plat gets free seat selection on any BA, AY and IB operated flight.
No one gets any free seat selection on any AA operated flight
Bag-allowance after applying tier perk
AY+ silver gets 1 bag on AY marketed and operated flights and on all AA marketed flights
AY+ gold gets 1 bag on AY marketed and operated flights, 1 bag on all IB marketed flights and 2 bags on AA marketed flights
AY plat gets 1 bag on all AY, IB marketed flights and 3 bags on AA marketed flights
No one gets any bags on any BA marketed flight.
Tier perks that works unconditionally
Premium check-in
Fast track security
Lounge access
Priority boarding
Seating
Seating will be automatic/random when check-in opens.
Seat selection is chargeable even after check-in opens.
Children will be seated next to one adult if booked in the same PNR. Adults and youths in same ticket can be spread all over cabin.
Tier member seat selection perk
AY+ silver gets free seat selection on BA operated flights from seven days before departure
AY+gold and plat gets free seat selection on any BA, AY and IB operated flight.
No one gets any free seat selection on any AA operated flight
Bag-allowance after applying tier perk
AY+ silver gets 1 bag on AY marketed and operated flights and on all AA marketed flights
AY+ gold gets 1 bag on AY marketed and operated flights, 1 bag on all IB marketed flights and 2 bags on AA marketed flights
AY plat gets 1 bag on all AY, IB marketed flights and 3 bags on AA marketed flights
No one gets any bags on any BA marketed flight.
Tier perks that works unconditionally
Premium check-in
Fast track security
Lounge access
Priority boarding
Light fares to North America
Nov 3, 2018, 11:07 am
#76
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: AY+, SK EB
Posts: 2,960
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30365110-post150.html
As you can see in this post the table seems to be updated at some point so that's that
This is just ridiculous.
As you can see in this post the table seems to be updated at some point so that's that
This is just ridiculous.
Travelling on other airlines
If your journey includes a flight with an airline other than British Airways, your checked baggage allowance may be different:- If every flight in your journey has a BA code (e.g. BA1234) you will get British Airways’ checked baggage allowance, even if some or all of the flights are operated by other airlines (so-called 'codeshare' flights).
- If every flight in your journey has another airline’s code, you will get that airline’s baggage allowance.
- If your journey includes a mix of BA and other airline codes (e.g. AA1122 or IB3210) you will get the allowance of the most significant carrier – usually the airline operating the longest part of the journey.
Nov 4, 2018, 2:24 pm
#77
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: HEL
Programs: AY GOLD, HH GOLD
Posts: 411
Jan 24, 2019, 8:13 am
#78
Join Date: Dec 2013
Programs: AY+ Plat, A3*G
Posts: 672
I'm very confused on the baggage allowance with Light tickets to NA.
Bought couple of tickets to US where HEL-LHR is operated by AY and TATL part by AA, all flights are AY coded and issued by AY.
I assume that I can bring one checked bag as AY Plat to all flights no problem whatsoever, but what about AY Silver (OW Ruby) member? The free bag benefit is only applied for AY flights, right? Or is it to all AY coded flights?
Bought couple of tickets to US where HEL-LHR is operated by AY and TATL part by AA, all flights are AY coded and issued by AY.
I assume that I can bring one checked bag as AY Plat to all flights no problem whatsoever, but what about AY Silver (OW Ruby) member? The free bag benefit is only applied for AY flights, right? Or is it to all AY coded flights?
Jan 24, 2019, 8:19 am
#79
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 517
Does not really matter as AA will allow the 1st bag complimentary for OW Ruby, too.
Jan 25, 2019, 12:08 am
#80
Join Date: Dec 2013
Programs: AY+ Plat, A3*G
Posts: 672
Jan 25, 2019, 2:35 am
#81
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: C2
Programs: AY ex-Lumo, TK Elite, BT VIP, ITA Executive
Posts: 1,157
You are reading the chart correct - it is 0 for OWR in your case. You may hope for a generous staff to waive the fee, but I'd be ready to pay.
Apr 18, 2019, 3:42 am
#82
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Sweden
Programs: AY+ Platinum
Posts: 26
I'm also bit confused about this. I'm flying following route ARN-HEL-ORD-SNA and back to Arlanda with following route LAX-HEL-ARN.
Flights from Arlanda to Santa Ana are ticketed by AA and operated by Finnair except ORD-SNA.
If I have correctly understood I will receive 2 free baggages as Finnair Plus Gold? (based unbundled fares reference guide) or I have missed something here?
My next question is that I'm flying with someone who does not hold any status will this baggege allowance extend to him as well?
Flights back are operated by Finnair and ticketed by Finnair, so If I correctly understood I will receive one free luggage. Again, the question is that if that baggage allowance will be extended to my travel company who does not hold any status?
Flights from Arlanda to Santa Ana are ticketed by AA and operated by Finnair except ORD-SNA.
If I have correctly understood I will receive 2 free baggages as Finnair Plus Gold? (based unbundled fares reference guide) or I have missed something here?
My next question is that I'm flying with someone who does not hold any status will this baggege allowance extend to him as well?
Flights back are operated by Finnair and ticketed by Finnair, so If I correctly understood I will receive one free luggage. Again, the question is that if that baggage allowance will be extended to my travel company who does not hold any status?
Apr 19, 2019, 7:03 am
#84
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 2,016
Apr 19, 2019, 11:53 am
#85
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: BA Gold, OZ Diamond, LH Silver
Posts: 553
It has gotten so difficult to understand the baggage rules on Transatlantic Light fares that in the end I decided to buy a PE ticket to USA just to be sure I can check in my two bags without hassle at the airport. On my flights the cheapest Light fare was about 1100€, the cheapest PE fare was about 1400€ and the cheapest non-Light economy fare I could find 2200€. Go figure 
May 2, 2019, 2:26 pm
#87
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: BA Gold, OZ Diamond, LH Silver
Posts: 553
It has gotten so difficult to understand the baggage rules on Transatlantic Light fares that in the end I decided to buy a PE ticket to USA just to be sure I can check in my two bags without hassle at the airport. On my flights the cheapest Light fare was about 1100€, the cheapest PE fare was about 1400€ and the cheapest non-Light economy fare I could find 2200€. Go figure
May 2, 2019, 3:57 pm
#88
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,750
Always fly J. Problem solved. 
Well, honestly, this sounds like a complete mess. If there is a JV, then surely the rules shoud be the same, regardless of ticketing or operating carrier.
Well, honestly, this sounds like a complete mess. If there is a JV, then surely the rules shoud be the same, regardless of ticketing or operating carrier.
May 2, 2019, 4:14 pm
#89
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AY+ Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,846
Agreed 100%!
It's a total mess. At least OP wasn't charged for the first bag. I believe Basic Economy booked via AA allows no checked bags on transatlantic flights, and the only exceptions are for AAdvantage elites. So as a OWE, no free checked bags. (Plus, a 2nd checked bag on AA is normally $100, so $84 is actually better.)
Last edited by flyingeph12; May 3, 2019 at 7:55 am Reason: I am confused...
May 2, 2019, 11:50 pm
#90
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Switzerland
Programs: AY+ Platinum, SK Gold, BAEC Silver, airbaltic VIP, Radisson VIP
Posts: 6,531
This is really poor I agree. If frequent flyers have troubles figuring out what and what not then how is it for infrequent travelers.
I personally think this whole complicated system is unacceptable, not only since we are talking of traveling within the same alliance but also because top tier elites don‘t get the same benefits everywhere.
Last but not least, the worst part is that often airline IT is so bad it doesn‘t reflect what is and it makes everything much more complicated.
Utter chaos this is.
I personally think this whole complicated system is unacceptable, not only since we are talking of traveling within the same alliance but also because top tier elites don‘t get the same benefits everywhere.
Last but not least, the worst part is that often airline IT is so bad it doesn‘t reflect what is and it makes everything much more complicated.
Utter chaos this is.