Possible new long-haul destinations excl. Far East
Jun 1, 2016, 1:28 pm
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If they could fill the plane, one of the old A34x's might get a new lease on life flying to IKA
Let's not forget even some narrowbody aircraft have IFE - e.g. Ex-bmi BA midhaul a321, some Qr and some Aa.
And one operating them ex-HEL is TK!
And one operating them ex-HEL is TK!
Jun 2, 2016, 6:10 am
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+1 I have an A33x slotted for the 80 minutes OTP-IST leg... seriously wonder if I should use TK points to upgrade.
Sep 22, 2016, 4:38 pm
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Rethinking LAX and IKA mentioned here. Even if LAX isn't doable within the 24 hour frame, IKA requires a lot less than 24 hours. Perhaps it could be profitable to fly LAX-HEL-IKA and back, 4 segments within 48 hours.
The same would apply to many US destinations and India, creating pairs like ORD/BOS/DFW and DEL/BOM/etc. You would imagine there would be lots of demand between US and India.
Of course, such plane usage would be a bit problematic timewise. If you want somewhat desirable arrival and departure times at the outstations, then HEL arr/dep would be in the middle of the night at least in one direction. But is it really a problem if the clientele comes from the US and India?
The same would apply to many US destinations and India, creating pairs like ORD/BOS/DFW and DEL/BOM/etc. You would imagine there would be lots of demand between US and India.
Of course, such plane usage would be a bit problematic timewise. If you want somewhat desirable arrival and departure times at the outstations, then HEL arr/dep would be in the middle of the night at least in one direction. But is it really a problem if the clientele comes from the US and India?
Sep 23, 2016, 6:08 pm
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Of course, such plane usage would be a bit problematic timewise. If you want somewhat desirable arrival and departure times at the outstations, then HEL arr/dep would be in the middle of the night at least in one direction. But is it really a problem if the clientele comes from the US and India?
Sep 23, 2016, 7:24 pm
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What curfew is that? Tonight, there have been scheduled arrivals at 2:55, 3:35 and 4:00 am and a departure at 4:45 am. I did find a document written by Finavia in 2014, stating some restrictions from 0:30 to 5:30, but they concern only the noisiest aircraft. Flagship A350 can't surely be one of the noisiest?
Sep 23, 2016, 10:02 pm
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Rethinking LAX and IKA mentioned here. Even if LAX isn't doable within the 24 hour frame, IKA requires a lot less than 24 hours. Perhaps it could be profitable to fly LAX-HEL-IKA and back, 4 segments within 48 hours.
The same would apply to many US destinations and India, creating pairs like ORD/BOS/DFW and DEL/BOM/etc. You would imagine there would be lots of demand between US and India.
Of course, such plane usage would be a bit problematic timewise. If you want somewhat desirable arrival and departure times at the outstations, then HEL arr/dep would be in the middle of the night at least in one direction. But is it really a problem if the clientele comes from the US and India?
The same would apply to many US destinations and India, creating pairs like ORD/BOS/DFW and DEL/BOM/etc. You would imagine there would be lots of demand between US and India.
Of course, such plane usage would be a bit problematic timewise. If you want somewhat desirable arrival and departure times at the outstations, then HEL arr/dep would be in the middle of the night at least in one direction. But is it really a problem if the clientele comes from the US and India?
IKA is close enough for A321.
Sep 24, 2016, 12:52 am
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Sep 24, 2016, 2:27 am
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Sep 24, 2016, 2:30 am
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As for the theme of this thread, how about Central Asia (the Stans) or Mongolia?
Would there be great circle routing advantages from, say, JFK (seat of the UN and of course the banking capital) to those destinations?
Would there be great circle routing advantages from, say, JFK (seat of the UN and of course the banking capital) to those destinations?
Sep 24, 2016, 4:29 am
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The 'stans are not considered part of the competitive area, except perhaps the most northern ones. Kazakhstan and Mongolia seems part of what Finnair would consider, together with Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam. But if we are to believe what Finnair tells the investors there is little of interest outside China or Korea.
Dotted red line marks "end of competitive area". Red line marks "24h rotation estimated with maximum payload & WB average range; 8500 kilometres, use only for planning purposes". Green marks strategic focus markets where AY promises to beat average RASK.
Dotted red line marks "end of competitive area". Red line marks "24h rotation estimated with maximum payload & WB average range; 8500 kilometres, use only for planning purposes". Green marks strategic focus markets where AY promises to beat average RASK.
Sep 24, 2016, 4:42 am
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