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lwildernorva Dec 21, 2014 9:22 pm

Oh, the humanity!

lwildernorva Dec 23, 2014 8:49 am

And then, when VFTW gets into my field, he really shows how he wants the facts to fit his narrative: http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....ngs-need-know/. It's a dissenting opinion where he finds his quotes, which is NOT the opinion of the court that decided the case. But, of course, it's not AA so ol' Gar feels free to bomb away.

No doubt UA wasn't given warm fuzzies by the majority (and kudos to Seth for communicating that subtlety that VFTW seems to miss), but courts generally couch language entering summary judgment in the most extreme terms possible since the legal standard for summary judgment requires accepting the plaintiff's best case as true, with no facts in dispute and all inferences that could be drawn from the facts resolved in the plaintiff's favor, in determining that the plaintiff has no chance of prevailing should the matter proceed to trial.

Maybe more legal analysis than you wanted this time of the year so Happy Holidays!

kokonutz Dec 23, 2014 11:32 am


Originally Posted by lwildernorva (Post 24041744)
And then, when VFTW gets into my field, he really shows how he wants the facts to fit his narrative: http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....ngs-need-know/. It's a dissenting opinion where he finds his quotes, which is NOT the opinion of the court that decided the case. But, of course, it's not AA so ol' Gar feels free to bomb away.

No doubt UA wasn't given warm fuzzies by the majority (and kudos to Seth for communicating that subtlety that VFTW seems to miss), but courts generally couch language entering summary judgment in the most extreme terms possible since the legal standard for summary judgment requires accepting the plaintiff's best case as true, with no facts in dispute and all inferences that could be drawn from the facts resolved in the plaintiff's favor, in determining that the plaintiff has no chance of prevailing should the matter proceed to trial.

Maybe more legal analysis than you wanted this time of the year so Happy Holidays!

Gary basically admits in the comments that he wrote the article title as click bait. :td:

rwinn Dec 23, 2014 11:44 am


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 24042723)
Gary basically admits in the comments that he wrote the article title as click bait. :td:

It looks like the title changed from "rules" to "says" ... still shows "rules" on boardingarea.com

kokonutz Dec 23, 2014 12:30 pm


Originally Posted by rwinn (Post 24042789)
It looks like the title changed from "rules" to "says" ... still shows "rules" on boardingarea.com

Thing is, the story is interesting enough without having to click-bait/exaggerate.

It's click-baiting for the sake of click-baiting. :confused:

Astrophsx Dec 23, 2014 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 24042723)
Gary basically admits in the comments that he wrote the article title as click bait. :td:

Someone should start a blog called "View from the Screen" and just give a daily top 10 list of best posts of BA blog posts and then a top 10 click bait stories. Litter the page with ads and credit card referrals.

The new trend on BA is to not write your own content... in fact... to limit your post to 2 sentences and a link to an article. Someone should just turn the tables on them!

Canarsie Dec 23, 2014 2:55 pm


Originally Posted by Astrophsx (Post 24043676)
just give a daily top 10 list of best posts of BA blog posts

This might suffice somewhat — and you get to click on any of the articles you believe should move further up...

Astrophsx Dec 30, 2014 1:12 pm

How to Get Medical Coverage from Your Credit Card
http://www.frugaltravelguy.com/2014/...traveling.html

cruisr Dec 30, 2014 1:23 pm


Originally Posted by Astrophsx (Post 24074172)
How to Get Medical Coverage from Your Credit Card
http://www.frugaltravelguy.com/2014/...traveling.html

Grrrrr. Why did I click the link. This one can also go under click bait.

SansSerif Dec 30, 2014 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by Astrophsx (Post 24074172)
How to Get Medical Coverage from Your Credit Card
http://www.frugaltravelguy.com/2014/...traveling.html

ugh

When I wrote on AMEX's premium global assist, I explicitly warned that emergency medical transportation is not, and thus should not be considered, an alternative to real insurance. Because, well, it's not.

Ironically, despite the glowing overview of the benefit:


Looking over the programs, American Express as a part of the Platinum card is by far the furthest-reaching and most liberal.
AMEX will NOT cover any of the hypothetical scenarios mentioned earlier on in the post:


but what if it had been something more serious? What if I needed to see a doctor or go to the emergency room? A broken bone, a bad cut or trouble breathing would have required immediate attention by a medical professional, and what would we have done?
This is different from "bad" advice in other blogs because it is downright dangerous advice. I'd hate to think of any readers relying on AMEX for immediate medical attention, or being unexpectedly hit with exorbitant hospital bills because they thought they were covered.

edit

And the referral link is to the platinum card. Seriously ....

freeloader Dec 30, 2014 3:02 pm


Originally Posted by SansSerif (Post 24074290)
ugh

When I wrote on AMEX's premium global assist, I explicitly warned that emergency medical transportation is not, and thus should not be considered, an alternative for real insurance. Because, well, it's not.

Ironically, despite the glowing overview of the benefit:



AMEX will NOT cover any of the hypothetical scenarios mentioned earlier on in the post:



This is different from "bad" advice in other blogs because it is downright dangerous advice. I'd hate to think of any readers relying on AMEX for immediate medical attention, or being unexpectedly hit with exorbitant hospital bills because they thought they were covered.

edit

And the referral link is to the platinum card. Seriously ....

Wow.... That's dangerously bad. Much worse then their typically wrong advice on avios, etc

Makes me scared to see what advice they will be slinging at their road shows

84fiero Dec 30, 2014 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by freeloader (Post 24074742)
Wow.... That's dangerously bad. Much worse then their typically wrong advice on avios, etc

Makes me scared to see what advice they will be slinging at their road shows

And all for the low price of $250 bucks to have it slung at you!

It doesn't appear that the Barclays benefits linked in the post provide anywhere near what the post implies it does, either.

Astrophsx Jan 5, 2015 12:39 am

This is going off topic. The thread is about bloggers posting wrong or misleading advice. There is always going to be a group on Flyertalk critical of bloggers.. which is why they pushed these conversations to an "external miles" section. I would say a majority of readers have no clue these conversations even exist, hence why they get so upset when people point out wrong/misleading information, click bait, killing deals, or pushing links. I would think that out of the most popular bloggers that Ben posts the most accurate information. He may have his own style of writing and opinions, but I think in this thread we should focus in on the actual posting of wrong or misleading information.

eponymous_coward Jan 5, 2015 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 24096410)
Passive aggression is sad.

I'd say much of this forum you're ambassador for is sad, then. The number of threads that go off into "I don't like this blogger's lifestyle because of reasons so I'll be snarky"... well, it's a leitmotif here.

farwest101 Jan 6, 2015 12:00 am

I find it a bit ludicrous to be criticizing a bunch of CC shills who masquerade as "experts" and pimp CC links all day long. They compete with banksters, commission-based financial advisors, lawyers and used car salesmen for the bottom of the ethical hierarchy.


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