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sbm12 Oct 29, 2014 6:07 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 23752976)
DL actually dropped free stopovers on delta.com

Yes, but many reported it was more significant than that.


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 23752976)
and is still planning to drop free stopovers.

Probably, but not confirmed yet.



Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 23752976)
About bloggers posting wrong or misleading advice, it would be fascinating to know who has what investment (including long and short) positions and other financial relationships with the airlines covered.

I have none. Given that I occasionally have access to inside information that would be a very, very bad idea. Dunno about others.

GUWonder Oct 29, 2014 6:20 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 23755117)
Yes, but many reported it was more significant than that.

Probably, but not confirmed yet.




I have none. Given that I occasionally have access to inside information that would be a very, very bad idea. Dunno about others.

With regard to corresponding paragraphs above:

1. It's more significant than just delta.com.

2. It's confirmed, even as DL could revise plans to change the timing.

3. I can empathize with not wanting to end up in a situation where you may be hit by insider trading allegations. That said, investment-related positions aren't the only kind of financial relationships that may exist with a given airline and/or industry.

kokonutz Oct 29, 2014 10:23 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 23755152)
3. I can empathize with not wanting to end up in a situation where you may be hit by insider trading allegations. That said, investment-related positions aren't the only kind of financial relationships that may exist with a given airline and/or industry.

My company pays lifestyle bloggers to promote our products. And we have a very strict NDA with them. @:-)

That's the beauty of the blogosphere from a marketing perspective: they SEEM like impartial journalists/consumer advocates, but at heart they are just (or at least CAN be just) salespeople.

sbm12 Oct 29, 2014 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 23756491)
My company pays lifestyle bloggers to promote our products. And we have a very strict NDA with them. @:-)

That's the beauty of the blogosphere from a marketing perspective: they SEEM like impartial journalists/consumer advocates, but at heart they are just (or at least CAN be just) salespeople.

And yet if they do not declare that it is paid product placement both you and the blogger are likely in violation of FTC rules regarding advertising.

http://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/fil...mentguides.pdf
http://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/fil...isclosures.pdf

kokonutz Oct 29, 2014 6:18 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 23759527)
And yet if they do not declare that it is paid product placement both you and the blogger are likely in violation of FTC rules regarding advertising.

http://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/fil...mentguides.pdf
http://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/fil...isclosures.pdf

Our lawyers are comfortable with fairly generic disclosures.

But of course there is more than one way to skin a blogger. For example, a blogger might get hired to do a special video or other promotion that might influence their blogging as well. Etc ad nauseum. @:-)

FlightNurse Oct 31, 2014 9:17 pm


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 23735572)
I personally prefer stickers over unlimited free upgrades too, because I like to buy premium tickets, sometimes at the last minute. And there is nothing worse than not being able to find space on a flight to BUY 2 premium tickets on a flight because the premium cabin is full of upgraders. And, for the same reason, I like it when a premium cabin is not packed to the gills from time to time.

So I don't have an issue with Gary's position. In fact, I think it would be awesome if AA changed its policy so that ExPlats had to use stickers too!!!! @:-)@:-)@:-)@:-) (I seriously doubt Gary would agree with THAT!).

One thing I like about US, they do not fill their cabin with upgrades, the first row is not released until day of departure so people like yourself can purchase a seat if needed. It has worked out in my fave a couple of times.

IMH Nov 2, 2014 2:59 pm

Taking shamelessness to the next level...: TPG today on which (US) credit cards are best for earning hotel status.

Early on we are told that HHonors Gold brings lounge access (it doesn't, although it will sometimes get you an upgrade to a room that comes with access).

That's relatively harmless, though. The scumbag bit is completely failing to mention no fewer than three hotel cards (Carlson, IHG, Hyatt) that confer status regardless of spend and at least one more non-hotel card (UA MileagePlus Club) that does the same.

kokonutz Nov 2, 2014 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by IMH (Post 23780397)
Taking shamelessness to the next level...: TPG today on which (US) credit cards are best for earning hotel status.

Early on we are told that HHonors Gold brings lounge access (it doesn't, although it will sometimes get you an upgrade to a room that comes with access).

That's relatively harmless, though. The scumbag bit is completely failing to mention no fewer than three hotel cards (Carlson, IHG, Hyatt) that confer status regardless of spend and at least one more non-hotel card (Chase UA Explorer) that does the same.

Wow. Not even a MENTION of any cards he doesn't earn money on.

A real worst practice post. :td:

freeloader Nov 2, 2014 5:59 pm


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 23780493)
Wow. Not even a MENTION of any cards he doesn't earn money on.

A real worst practice post. :td:

Interestingly, over at TBB, he isn't the guy earning money on any of the referrals... Apparently he would the site to bankrate.com back in 2012...

IMH Nov 2, 2014 6:03 pm


Originally Posted by freeloader (Post 23781131)
Interestingly, over at TBB, he isn't the guy earning money on any of the referrals

It's safe to assume that everyone at TPG earns money for their work there.

Renes Points Nov 3, 2014 2:00 am


Originally Posted by freeloader (Post 23781131)
Interestingly, over at TBB, he isn't the guy earning money on any of the referrals... Apparently he would the site to bankrate.com back in 2012...

Today Tabloid Buzzard joined the affiliate market with links (not that he will disclose what he is paid). :p
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Let's see if he direct links to card offers or only links to his card tab from this point out?:rolleyes:
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At least the TBB Amazon link may get less that 100 mentions per post now so there is that.:o

gpapadop Nov 3, 2014 9:07 am

Giggles.

HikerT Nov 3, 2014 10:07 am

George, thanks for adding a text link to supplement the banner. Similarly for your Amazon banner on the front page. For those of us with ....... installed we can't see or click on anything. I used your Amazon link this weekend but took some effort to hunt it down.

satz Nov 3, 2014 10:58 am


Originally Posted by Delta Points (Post 23782441)
Today Tabloid Buzzard joined the affiliate market with links (not that he will disclose what he is paid). :p
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Let's see if he direct links to card offers or only links to his card tab from this point out?:rolleyes:
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At least the TBB Amazon link may get less that 100 mentions per post now so there is that.:o

"blah blah blah" your blog is completely irrelevant :D

Mountain Trader Nov 3, 2014 4:46 pm

I remember Delta saying they were working to fix their award engine over the coming months. That was back in 2010.

I must admit, I didn't think they meant 60 months.


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