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Old Jul 15, 2011, 10:05 pm
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BR to JFK eff 31Oct

Just got the e-mail...

Effective on/after 31OCT 2011 (travel date), BR31/32 flight will be starting a new service between John F Kennedy Airport to TAIPEI, TAIWAN.

10/31/2011-11/05/2011:

JFK-ANC-TPE BR31 1.34.6. JFK2350 - TPE0720+2

TPE-JFK BR32 1.34.6. TPE1930 - JFK2200

11/06/2011-3/09/2012:


JFK-ANC-TPE BR31 1.34.6. JFK2250 - TPE0730+2

TPE-JFK BR32 1.34.6. TPE1930 - JFK2100

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Old Jul 16, 2011, 12:34 am
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the "new service" replaces the Newark service, right? I have family members that would not be so amused... oh well...
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Old Jul 16, 2011, 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by myperks
the "new service" replaces the Newark service, right? I have family members that would not be so amused... oh well...
The wording of the e-mail is strange: "Effective on/after 31OCT 2011 (travel date), BR31/32 flight will be starting a new service between John F Kennedy Airport to TAIPEI, TAIWAN. "

The strange thing is that I subscribed to communications in Chinese and ended up getting a poorly written e-mail in English sent on a weekend (Taiwan time).

The fact they are using the same flight number would tell me they are shifting to JFK which seems strange to many. Yes, people in NJ, PHL and even Rockland County NY, most likely won't like this.

People were speculating that SQ might start JFK-TPE and wonder what BR might do. Might this be it?

I am starting to think maybe CO is not being helpful with BR now that CO/UA are together. So, BR is aligning more with AA at least in NYC? (And how will that work when BR joins *A?)

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Old Jul 16, 2011, 11:40 am
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TPE JFK is replacing TPE EWR, which is a service resumption.

BR operated service to both JFK and EWR sometimes between 1996 and 1998 (or 1997), and then it decided to consolidate pax op to EWR when it started cooperation with Continental.
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Old Jul 16, 2011, 1:10 pm
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It used to be TPE-SEA-EWR v.v. and TPE-ANC-JFK v.v., if I remember correctly.
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Old Jul 16, 2011, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by coolfish1103
It used to be TPE-SEA-EWR v.v. and TPE-ANC-JFK v.v., if I remember correctly.
Nov 1995: TPE SEA EWR, TPE SEA JFK
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Old Jul 16, 2011, 2:07 pm
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Surprised by this as this will put them head to head with CI for the JFK-TPE routing - though they will be offering the non-stop one way unlike CI's JFK-KIX-TPE route. If they are going to join *A in the near future, wouldn't it make sense to remain at EWR?

They used to run EWR-ANC-TPE in the summer months in the mid 90's with a 744 Combi with a fuel stop in ANC and then would run EWR-SEA-TPE in the non summer months with the 744.
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Old Jul 16, 2011, 8:28 pm
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With SQ planning JFK-TPE, wouldn't it make more sense for BR to remain at EWR? Plus, as someone mentioned already, how would it work when *A accepts its application for membership? Puzzling move, indeed.

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Old Jul 17, 2011, 6:48 am
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Good to know the schedule is altered between seasons.

Maybe BR is trying to fill the void to shut SQ down from entering the market while capturing the passengers lost by CI after the flight got moved to the mornings/afternoon with a mandatory stop at KIX.
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Old Jul 17, 2011, 7:35 am
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With SQ planning JFK-TPE, wouldn't it make more sense for BR to remain at EWR? Plus, as someone mentioned already, how would it work when *A accepts its application for membership? Puzzling move, indeed.

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Star does not have a rule says all member carriers should re-locate to EWR for NYC area. In fact most Star members flies to JFK not EWR (except SQ LH SK TP LX AC)
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Old Jul 17, 2011, 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by jimyvr
Star does not have a rule says all member carriers should re-locate to EWR for NYC area. In fact most Star members flies to JFK not EWR (except SQ LH SK TP LX AC)
The code share and connection possibilities for BR customers would be much greater at EWR since it is a major CO hub. JFK is an open station and supports mostly O/D international traffic. This is a very strange move for BR they really intend to join *A.


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Old Jul 17, 2011, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by SunLover
This is a very strange move for BR they really intend to join *A.
It's funny you mention this, because I was thinking the exact same thing.
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Old Jul 17, 2011, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by coolfish1103
... capturing the passengers lost by CI after the flight got moved to the mornings/afternoon with a mandatory stop at KIX.
This makes sense. Especially those SE Asia/AU connections...
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Old Jul 17, 2011, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by jimyvr
Star does not have a rule says all member carriers should re-locate to EWR for NYC area. In fact most Star members flies to JFK not EWR (except SQ LH SK TP LX AC)
Of course not. It is about cross-feeding the traffic.
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Old Jul 17, 2011, 10:33 am
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It's funny you mention this, because I was thinking the exact same thing.
As the Taiwanese would say "people are falling and breaking their eyeglasses" with this change.
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