EVA Air Y review by Salon's "Ask the Pilot"
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EVA Air Y review by Salon's "Ask the Pilot"
http://www.salon.com/technology/ask_...air/index.html
Been meaning to post this, ran across it several weeks ago, it's an interesting perspective from a pilot accustomed to U.S. carriers...what struck me was the headline "better than first class" which I immediately dismissed as hyperbole, but upon reading found that he does have some good points...
EVA's cabin standards are pretty good, and Economy is pretty comfortable overall. Having flown different EVA classes, I find Economy fine, save having to sit with a stranger when traveling in a 2-person party; almost at times enough to warrant downgrading from Elite. I'd also like to see more galley refreshments between meals. The 33 in. pitch is also much more tolerable than say the 31 in. found on other carriers.
And also "EVA 1" being the most important route, I wonder whether that numbering truly applies, or rather it was their first transoceanic route that got that (LAX-TPE). Supposedly it was originally flown by 767s before the 747 and now 777.
Been meaning to post this, ran across it several weeks ago, it's an interesting perspective from a pilot accustomed to U.S. carriers...what struck me was the headline "better than first class" which I immediately dismissed as hyperbole, but upon reading found that he does have some good points...
EVA's cabin standards are pretty good, and Economy is pretty comfortable overall. Having flown different EVA classes, I find Economy fine, save having to sit with a stranger when traveling in a 2-person party; almost at times enough to warrant downgrading from Elite. I'd also like to see more galley refreshments between meals. The 33 in. pitch is also much more tolerable than say the 31 in. found on other carriers.
And also "EVA 1" being the most important route, I wonder whether that numbering truly applies, or rather it was their first transoceanic route that got that (LAX-TPE). Supposedly it was originally flown by 767s before the 747 and now 777.
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To HNL for sure, I flew HNL-SYD with QF in 1999... I somehow also recall QF used to fly from a point (points?) in continental US via HNL to SYD. YVR rings a bell (but it would had to be before partnership with Canadian Airlines).
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BR 12/BR 11 was the first North American route TPE-LAX-TPE. In fact, it started 12/12/1992 - a week and 18 years ago.
TPE-HNL was on the 767 (I can't remember if it was 763 or 762 - they had both).
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BR 1 was LAX-KHH (Kaohsiung) non-stop. They operated that with a 744 briefly in the late 90s. I think they dropped the route and the flight number was not used until recently.
BR 12/BR 11 was the first North American route TPE-LAX-TPE. In fact, it started 12/12/1992 - a week and 18 years ago.
TPE-HNL was on the 767 (I can't remember if it was 763 or 762 - they had both).
BR 12/BR 11 was the first North American route TPE-LAX-TPE. In fact, it started 12/12/1992 - a week and 18 years ago.
TPE-HNL was on the 767 (I can't remember if it was 763 or 762 - they had both).
The TPE-HNL route, interesting they used the 767...I assume this was the first time they operated it; the more recent (and also short-lived) TPE-HNL attempt was advertised as an A330.
So the 'BR 1' being LAX-KHH suggests that EVA not necessarily gave the first number to its 'flagship route' (although now they do it seems).
Interesting tidbits, thanks everyone! BTW, since we're on the naming, flight numbers etc. topic (which the original article did reference), does anyone know the exact reason why "BR" is used? Someone once mentioned that it had to do with a code-share arrangement or something, anyhow one wonders why not something closer to EVA; e.g. EV 001, EV 012, etc. (like SQ 001, SQ 012 etc)?
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So its BR is Republic of China airline.
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Interesting tidbits, thanks everyone! BTW, since we're on the naming, flight numbers etc. topic (which the original article did reference), does anyone know the exact reason why "BR" is used? Someone once mentioned that it had to do with a code-share arrangement or something, anyhow one wonders why not something closer to EVA; e.g. EV 001, EV 012, etc. (like SQ 001, SQ 012 etc)?
My guess is those are the IATA codes that did not have numbers that were available. BR originally belonged to British Caledonian.
Maybe Chang Yung-Fa has the "eight words" calculated and it was a match
Another possibility is that I think BR's reservation system came from BA and that MIGHT have something to do with it.
Mandarin Airlines got AE, which was Air Europa.
By the time EVA started UNI Air, I guess they ran out of codes that don't have numbers so they got B7?
Many of the newer airlines (Frontier, JetBlue) have funny codes such as F9, B6...
There is also the ICAO code and their's is EVA. It is used on the flying side (e.g. air traffic control).
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Ah yes, that's where I recall hearing it, something to do with EVA having some coding/reservations connections with BA. Maybe indeed that is why BR came to be. But the other reasons sound plausible too. Thanks for sharing.