Airlines win: DB throws in the towel - end of European night trains?

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May 10, 2016, 3:14 pm

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Originally Posted by jt82

Reasonable enough, the train being diverted and not stopping at the Hbf leaving me to divert to whatever a Gesundbrunnen is, was expecting it to be cramped but not quite as cramped as it was, I'm 5'7" and didn't have a great deal of space to play with. And naturally the only shower at Köln Hbf was broken

A "Gesundbrunnen" is a "healthy well", for whatever it's worth, and also a train station.

May 11, 2016, 5:47 pm

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Looks like SNCF is joining the crowd.

Only ex-Paris routes to be retained are Rodez, Briançon and Latour de Carol

May 12, 2016, 5:26 pm

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Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach

Looks like SNCF is joining the crowd.

Only ex-Paris routes to be retained are Rodez, Briançon and Latour de Carol

And these have only couchettes (and seats cars) - no sleepers. The only "night trains" (involving couchette cars, no longer any sleepers) being dropped appear to be Paris-Irun, Paris-Port Bou. Luxembourg-Port Bou, Strasbourg-Port Bou, Luxembourg-Nice, Strasbourg-Nice, Paris-St. Gervais and Paris-Bourg St. Maurice. The article doesn't say anything specific about the Luxembourg/Strasbourg couchette cars, so these might remain. There's also the Paris-Venice sleeper operated by Thello, not SNCF (Thello is a company formed by Trenitalia and a private French firm), so it will probably still run. SNCF got rid of all their sleepers and dining cars years ago, not to mention Pullman cars, and there wasn't much left in comfortable French rail travel anyhow. At least the Germans, Austrians, Swiss and Scandinavians still have dining cars, and even the Italians and east Europeans have a bit left.

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