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terrier Jun 20, 2021 12:16 pm


Originally Posted by Grouchy (Post 33342368)
This is quit incorrect info. The Dutch goverment has already decided that the travel ban to the Netherlands for travelers from the United States will be lifted on June 24, 2021 (00:01 am).
The number of infections in the USA is below the threshold set by the EU. With this, the test obligations and the urgent advice to quarantine for travelers from the USA will also be cancelled.

Do you have an *official* source for that lifting of the entry ban for travelers from the US on June 24? Because I see nothing on any of the official government sites to this effect, either in English (government.nl, netherlandsandyou.nl) or Dutch (rijksoverheid.nl, rivm.nl, nederlandenu.nl, etc.) Nothing was said about this in the official press conference on Friday either, nor does anything appear in TIMATIC to this effect.

Again, while European Commission has presented the European Council an updated list of countries, residents of which for whom "EU Member States should gradually lift the travel restrictions at the external borders" (https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-...us-pandemic_en), in practice, implementation is left up to individual countries. As of right now, the Netherlands has *not* yet added the US to its list of safe countries (see https://www.government.nl/topics/cor...safe-countries).

Grouchy Jun 20, 2021 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by terrier (Post 33343066)
Do you have an *official* source for that lifting of the entry ban for travelers from the US on June 24? Because I see nothing on any of the official government sites to this effect, either in English (government.nl, netherlandsandyou.nl) or Dutch (rijksoverheid.nl, rivm.nl, nederlandenu.nl, etc.) Nothing was said about this in the official press conference on Friday either, nor does anything appear in TIMATIC to this effect.

Again, while European Commission has presented the European Council an updated list of countries, residents of which for whom "EU Member States should gradually lift the travel restrictions at the external borders" (https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-...us-pandemic_en), in practice, implementation is left up to individual countries. As of right now, the Netherlands has *not* yet added the US to its list of safe countries (see https://www.government.nl/topics/cor...safe-countries).

Found it in the official records where the Minister of Health, Welfare and Sport informs de Tweede Kamer (House of Representatives) so it's all in dutch.

It's also briefly mentioned on the dutch goverment site, again in dutch:
https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwe...de-maatregelen

Scroll down and you will see:
Het inreisverbod voor reizigers uit Albanië, Libanon, Noord Macedonië, Servië, Taiwan, Verenigde Staten, Hongkong en Macau wordt per 24 juni 2021 (00.01 uur) opgeheven. Hiermee zal ook de testverplichting en het dringend advies tot quarantaine voor reizigers uit deze landen en gebieden komen te vervallen.

Google translate:
The entry ban for travelers from Albania, Lebanon, North Macedonia, Serbia, Taiwan, United States, Hong Kong and Macau will be lifted as of June 24, 2021 (00:01 AM). This will also remove the testing obligation and the urgent advice to quarantine travelers from these countries and areas.

As for TIMATIC that's almost always lagging, same with the safe countries list. They only will change/update that list close to the opening date or on the day of the opening, noticed that when doing Austria, Switzerland and Slovakia trips the last weeks.

terrier Jun 20, 2021 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by Grouchy (Post 33343263)
Found it in the official records where the Minister of Health, Welfare and Sport informs de Tweede Kamer (House of Representatives) so it's all in dutch.

It's also briefly mentioned on the dutch goverment site, again in dutch:
https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwe...de-maatregelen

Scroll down and you will see:
Het inreisverbod voor reizigers uit Albanië, Libanon, Noord Macedonië, Servië, Taiwan, Verenigde Staten, Hongkong en Macau wordt per 24 juni 2021 (00.01 uur) opgeheven. Hiermee zal ook de testverplichting en het dringend advies tot quarantaine voor reizigers uit deze landen en gebieden komen te vervallen.

Google translate:
The entry ban for travelers from Albania, Lebanon, North Macedonia, Serbia, Taiwan, United States, Hong Kong and Macau will be lifted as of June 24, 2021 (00:01 AM). This will also remove the testing obligation and the urgent advice to quarantine travelers from these countries and areas.

As for TIMATIC that's almost always lagging, same with the safe countries list. They only will change/update that list close to the opening date or on the day of the opening, noticed that when doing Austria, Switzerland and Slovakia trips the last weeks.

Good find! (The actual link is https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwe...plannen-reizen but yes, I see it.)

Thanks for the correction. I hope some sanity around providing and recognizing proof of vaccination starts to prevail here.

LFR Jun 21, 2021 7:34 am

Following up to my own question and to grouchy and terrier:

Since posting my question I began communicating with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs via WhatsApp at +31 6 82388055 (see: the netherlandworldwide official govt site)

Their exact language, which supports all that grouchy has said in his last few posts was "With the current entry ban, Americans are not allowed to enter for tourism, not even with a PCR test. The US will be added on to the list of safe countries as per 24th of June. If that is confirmed on the webpage, no test or quarantine will be required to travel."

Great news. Very exciting.

ja70 Jun 21, 2021 9:17 am

https://www.government.nl/topics/cor...safe-countries

US has been added to the official list with the June 24th timeline.

gateH15 Jun 21, 2021 10:43 am

Any advice if traveling USA-LHR-AMS is allowed for tourism starting June 24?
I won’t be leaving airport and it’s a short 2 hour connection in LHR. Non stop flight from US are too expensive at this point for the dates I’m looking.

MarkP24 Jun 22, 2021 10:49 pm

COVID Test in AMS
 
Are there COVID tests available in AMS that one can use for a return flight to the U.S.? If not, what's the easiest option for one in Amsterdam itself prior to a return flight? Thanks!

thomas199023 Jun 23, 2021 1:19 am


Originally Posted by MarkP24 (Post 33349890)
Are there COVID tests available in AMS that one can use for a return flight to the U.S.? If not, what's the easiest option for one in Amsterdam itself prior to a return flight? Thanks!

This company has a setup at the airport, near the Sheraton: https://test2fly.amsterdam/
It is 69 Euro for a rapid test though, which is quite a lot. In Amsterdam itself there are many providers, a quick google will find you dozens.
These guys are everywhere in NL and an antigen test with certificate is 50 euro: https://spoedtest.nl/

MarkP24 Jun 23, 2021 5:35 am


Originally Posted by thomas199023 (Post 33350063)
This company has a setup at the airport, near the Sheraton: https://test2fly.amsterdam/
It is 69 Euro for a rapid test though, which is quite a lot. In Amsterdam itself there are many providers, a quick google will find you dozens.
These guys are everywhere in NL and an antigen test with certificate is 50 euro: https://spoedtest.nl/

This is so helpful!!

Thank you!!!

MarkP24 Jun 23, 2021 5:42 am


Originally Posted by thomas199023 (Post 33350063)
This company has a setup at the airport, near the Sheraton: https://test2fly.amsterdam/
It is 69 Euro for a rapid test though, which is quite a lot. In Amsterdam itself there are many providers, a quick google will find you dozens.
These guys are everywhere in NL and an antigen test with certificate is 50 euro: https://spoedtest.nl/

Thank you again!

Just to confirm, both of these tests are valid for entry into the U.S.?

thomas199023 Jun 23, 2021 6:39 am


Originally Posted by MarkP24 (Post 33350358)
Thank you again!

Just to confirm, both of these tests are valid for entry into the U.S.?

Yup, they offer both antigen and PCR, but an antigen (rapid) test is all that is required for the US.
They provide a travel certificate with all relevant data on it.

MarkP24 Jun 25, 2021 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by thomas199023 (Post 33350063)
This company has a setup at the airport, near the Sheraton: https://test2fly.amsterdam/
It is 69 Euro for a rapid test though, which is quite a lot. In Amsterdam itself there are many providers, a quick google will find you dozens.
These guys are everywhere in NL and an antigen test with certificate is 50 euro: https://spoedtest.nl/

Do you know anyone who's used the rapid test from: https://spoedtest.nl/ to return to the U.S.? I'm getting mixed messages on it. Thanks!

thomas199023 Jun 26, 2021 2:00 am


Originally Posted by MarkP24 (Post 33356996)
Do you know anyone who's used the rapid test from: https://spoedtest.nl/ to return to the U.S.? I'm getting mixed messages on it. Thanks!

You only need an antigen to go to the US, does not need to be PCR. As stated by CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...travelers.html

The spoedtest.nl one will work just fine. :-)

MarkP24 Jun 26, 2021 5:37 pm


Originally Posted by thomas199023 (Post 33358452)
You only need an antigen to go to the US, does not need to be PCR. As stated by CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...travelers.html

The spoedtest.nl one will work just fine. :-)

Thanks for your assistance!

liquidtoast Jun 29, 2021 3:57 am

Sorry if this has been beat to death already, but if I am transiting AMS coming from the UK I don't need the 24-hour PCR or PCR/antigen test combo, right? The language on the government website is very confusing. I would be in transit to another EU country so would need to go through passport in AMS (not an issue as I am an EU passport holder).


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