Passing through two Schengen countries with an almost expired green card
Aug 15, 2016, 8:32 am
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Passing through two Schengen countries with an almost expired green card
Hello FTers,
My wife is going to travel Dubai and India in December via two schegan countries (Denmark/Germany) - she is not entering the two EU countries - just transiting.
She is a green card holder and Kenyan citizen
Our travel dates are:
Her passport doesn't expire until 2022 which is great but my concern is her green card expires in March 15, 2017 -- Will there be any issues with Visa's/entering/exiting the above countries?
I cannot apply for renewing green card before 90 days - so i will have to wait for us to come back before i can process that.
Thanks for any help!!
My wife is going to travel Dubai and India in December via two schegan countries (Denmark/Germany) - she is not entering the two EU countries - just transiting.
She is a green card holder and Kenyan citizen
- She will need Dubai Visa
- She will need Indian Visa
Our travel dates are:
- December 20-28 --> Dubai
- December 28 - Jan 19 --> India
Her passport doesn't expire until 2022 which is great but my concern is her green card expires in March 15, 2017 -- Will there be any issues with Visa's/entering/exiting the above countries?
I cannot apply for renewing green card before 90 days - so i will have to wait for us to come back before i can process that.
Thanks for any help!!
Aug 15, 2016, 10:35 am
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What is her route? Is it via Denmark on one journey and via Germany on the other, or does her route involve a flight between Denmark and Germany?
If it's the latter then she needs a full Schengen visa as you can't travel between two Schengen countries without entering Schengen.
Can't help with the rest.
If it's the latter then she needs a full Schengen visa as you can't travel between two Schengen countries without entering Schengen.
Can't help with the rest.
Aug 15, 2016, 10:42 am
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according to timatic:
1) twov in schengen country permitted as long as onward ticket is presented
2 & 3) yes but depending on what arrival point in india she may be eligible for a single shot visa on arrival, same with dubai, both have to be done in advance online
also it cant be twov thru two schengen countries eg. usa-denmark- india ok
usa-denmark-germany-india not ok transit visa required
btw green card is irrelevant in this case as she has to get visas
1) twov in schengen country permitted as long as onward ticket is presented
2 & 3) yes but depending on what arrival point in india she may be eligible for a single shot visa on arrival, same with dubai, both have to be done in advance online
also it cant be twov thru two schengen countries eg. usa-denmark- india ok
usa-denmark-germany-india not ok transit visa required
btw green card is irrelevant in this case as she has to get visas
Last edited by moyeung; Aug 15, 2016 at 10:49 am
Aug 15, 2016, 3:04 pm
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You will definitely need a Schengen visa as you are transiting two Schengen countries. And there is no such thing as a "transit visa". There is only one type of Schengen visa, a normal tourist visa - it doesn't matter if you're staying three hours or three months.
Aug 16, 2016, 7:34 am
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Thanks for the input.
Since my wife's green card is expiring three months after we come back - will that be an issue with visas?
Aug 16, 2016, 10:12 am
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Aug 16, 2016, 5:24 pm
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Aug 17, 2016, 12:08 am
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Aug 17, 2016, 12:30 am
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But since the Op has stated that the journey will involve intra-schengen travel the whole transit discussion is moot anyway, and the green card has no bearing on it either.
Aug 17, 2016, 1:46 am
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It's all in how you want to read it.... there is the obligation for some nationalities to get a schengen visa even if they are just transiting, but there is no "transit visa" type to be had. Just the regular short stay visa for tourists.
But since the Op has stated that the journey will involve intra-schengen travel the whole transit discussion is moot anyway, and the green card has no bearing on it either.
But since the Op has stated that the journey will involve intra-schengen travel the whole transit discussion is moot anyway, and the green card has no bearing on it either.
A and B are transit visas.
And as long as she doesn´t leave the transit area, she doesn´t have to apply for any kind of visa as she holds an residency permit for the US.
Aug 17, 2016, 3:58 am
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Type B visas were abolished in 2010.
Type A visas are for transit in the non-Schengen area of airports and do not permit entry into the Schengen area. No Schengen country requires Kenyan citizens to obtain a type A visa.
Therefore the only visas the OP's wife is eligible to obtain are type C or type D. If she wishes to keep her travel plans, a type C visa is required. Otherwise she should change them to avoid an internal Schengen flight, in which case no visa would be required (as long as there is no overnight transit or the Schengen airport involved stays open overnight and she doesn't leave the airport).
Aug 17, 2016, 4:43 am
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She'll enter the Schengen area in DK and leave it in DE. Makes no difference if she doesn't leave either airports - she'll go through immigration at Kastrup (CPH) If Kenyan citizens need visa for Schengen, she'll need one.